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NoFap is of course the pseudo-scientific movement promoted by "Proud Boy" Gavin McInnes. When I consider the constellation of associated movements and groups w

NoFap is of course the pseudo-scientific movement promoted by "Proud Boy" Gavin McInnes. When I consider the constellation of associated movements and groups with these sorts of things I have to step back and say "no." You have to be careful about what people you associate yourself with and also with the subcultures and thought-forms you submerge yourself in.

mjfl 8y ago
I'm not involved in it, but I know for a fact that the "NoFap" movement goes back like 8 or 9 years, and probably further back, and the Proud Boys have only recently come about, maybe in the last two years. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only association between the two groups is via endorsement by McInnes. I just want to clear that up in case someone's at a party and touting NoFap and an insane person like yourself concludes that they must be a Nazi. You should be more careful about that.
deno 8y ago
> You have to be careful about what people you associate yourself with and also with the subcultures and thought-forms you submerge yourself in. Do you think you’ll catch wrongthink by even accidentally interacting with people that have different political views than your own? I don’t have a dog in this fight but this just struck me as such small-minded thing to say… No Fap is self-evidently apolitical. Though it’s true it is “pseudoscientific,” but really that should be obvious—it was started around a meme. There’s also Porn Free[1] which evolved independently alongside the website Your Brain On Porn[2], that is very much evidence-based. [1] https://reddit.com/r/pornfree https://reddit.com/r/pornfree [2] https://yourbrainonporn.com/ https://yourbrainonporn.com/
PKop 8y ago
Now that you bring it up, from what I gather the "Proud Boy"s like Gavin endorse the no-fap movement because they view committed monogamous relationships between to long term partners as the best outcome for society, and individuals as well, and porn use as essentially a mental poison akin to drug use. It diminishes one of the most powerful drives in men: desire to find a sexual partner and a long term relationship. The modern view of degenerate behavior where unlimited sexual partners with no commitment is somehow seen as "empowering" is viewed by many as terrible advice, especially to women. The long term consequence is unhappiness and regret when people age out of the primary dating pool, having wasted their prime years either either engaging in casual sexual relationships or heavy porn use. Young men would do themselves a service to actually look into these movements themselves, and things like "No fap" and discover the benefits, instead of listening to porn users who recoil at anyone criticizing their addiction and lifestyle choices.

mjfl 8y ago

I'm not involved in it, but I know for a fact that the "NoFap" movement goes back like 8 or 9 years, and probably further back, and the Proud Boys have only recently come about, maybe in the last two years. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only association between the two groups is via endorsement by McInnes. I just want to clear that up in case someone's at a party and touting NoFap and an insane person like yourself concludes that they must be a Nazi. You should be more careful about that.

deno 8y ago

> You have to be careful about what people you associate yourself with and also with the subcultures and thought-forms you submerge yourself in. Do you think you’ll catch wrongthink by even accidentally interacting with people that have different political views than your own? I don’t have a dog in this fight but this just struck me as such small-minded thing to say… No Fap is self-evidently apolitical. Though it’s true it is “pseudoscientific,” but really that should be obvious—it was started around a meme. There’s also Porn Free[1] which evolved independently alongside the website Your Brain On Porn[2], that is very much evidence-based. [1] https://reddit.com/r/pornfree https://reddit.com/r/pornfree [2] https://yourbrainonporn.com/ https://yourbrainonporn.com/

PKop 8y ago

Now that you bring it up, from what I gather the "Proud Boy"s like Gavin endorse the no-fap movement because they view committed monogamous relationships between to long term partners as the best outcome for society, and individuals as well, and porn use as essentially a mental poison akin to drug use. It diminishes one of the most powerful drives in men: desire to find a sexual partner and a long term relationship. The modern view of degenerate behavior where unlimited sexual partners with no commitment is somehow seen as "empowering" is viewed by many as terrible advice, especially to women. The long term consequence is unhappiness and regret when people age out of the primary dating pool, having wasted their prime years either either engaging in casual sexual relationships or heavy porn use. Young men would do themselves a service to actually look into these movements themselves, and things like "No fap" and discover the benefits, instead of listening to porn users who recoil at anyone criticizing their addiction and lifestyle choices.