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The big issue is that Google over time has moved to scrape the web. One big thing Google has done recently is they extract what you search for from a website,

The big issue is that Google over time has moved to scrape the web. One big thing Google has done recently is they extract what you search for from a website, and show it inline. E.g. when I search for a recipe, I get the result in the Google search, and don’t need to visit their website. https://i.k8r.eu/aILGEg https://i.k8r.eu/aILGEg Google extracts reviews from Yelp!, and I can read them without visiting Yelp!. They’re doing this for everything, and AMP furthers this. Google is trying to keep the user as long as possible on Google, and show snippets instead of letting users leave. As result many of these sites lose out on ad impressions, and money. Google has no way to disable this feature short of entire unlisting your site.

cabalamat 8y ago
> The big issue is that Google over time has moved to scrape the web. This is true, and a lot of Google's practices are monopolistic/hegemonic. However banning/taxing links is not the answer.
- kuschku 8y ago
  But what are you gonna do about it then? Ban snippets? Tax snippets? Wait for Google to be the web? Specially regulate Google? There’s no good solutions.
  - cabalamat 8y ago
    > But what are you gonna do about it then? Ban snippets? Tax snippets? Wait for Google to be the web? Specially regulate Google? I think I would ban search engines from doing other things, ban or regulate targetted advertising, require social networks to be interoperable, and ban social networks from owning other social networks (so Facebook would have to sell off Instagram).
    - kuschku 8y ago
      That’s an idea I can agree with, and that Vestager visibly sympathizes with, but that’d mean breaking apart Google, and as result would anger a lot of people.
fauigerzigerk 8y ago
I can see the problem with that. But as I understand it the proposed "link tax" is not limited to this sort of thing.
- kuschku 8y ago
  Yeah, it’s why I hate the law as it is, but I can obviously also understand why Google seems like a threat to the actors behind this.

cabalamat 8y ago

> The big issue is that Google over time has moved to scrape the web. This is true, and a lot of Google's practices are monopolistic/hegemonic. However banning/taxing links is not the answer.

kuschku 8y ago
But what are you gonna do about it then? Ban snippets? Tax snippets? Wait for Google to be the web? Specially regulate Google? There’s no good solutions.
- cabalamat 8y ago
  > But what are you gonna do about it then? Ban snippets? Tax snippets? Wait for Google to be the web? Specially regulate Google? I think I would ban search engines from doing other things, ban or regulate targetted advertising, require social networks to be interoperable, and ban social networks from owning other social networks (so Facebook would have to sell off Instagram).
  - kuschku 8y ago
    That’s an idea I can agree with, and that Vestager visibly sympathizes with, but that’d mean breaking apart Google, and as result would anger a lot of people.

fauigerzigerk 8y ago

I can see the problem with that. But as I understand it the proposed "link tax" is not limited to this sort of thing.

kuschku 8y ago
Yeah, it’s why I hate the law as it is, but I can obviously also understand why Google seems like a threat to the actors behind this.