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I appreciate the honesty, I was looking at this a bit seriously for a new project but now I think I’ll pass.

lima 8y ago
I'm not a Red Hat employee (though mostly working within the ecosystem), and I'm going to use PatternFly for an upcoming commercial project. I also noticed that some PRs take a long time to merge, mostly due to there being a lot of review comments and fixes. For each PR that touches CSS/HTML, they also have a designer check for accessibility and usability issues. It's a feature, not a bug ;-) The reason I like PatternFly is their emphasis on usability. I work on enterprise software, and people are going to rely on it for their day-to-day work. Most CSS frameworks are really fancy, but bad for usability (lots of white space, low contrast, hard to navigate using a keyboard). PatternFly is the opposite. Here's the React storybook, for a quick overview: (React is what most RH products seem to use nowadays) https://rawgit.com/patternfly/patternfly-react/gh-pages/index.html https://rawgit.com/patternfly/patternfly-react/gh-pages/inde...
- matte_black 8y ago
  What you are referring to is exactly why I wanted to use it, I’d like a good framework for enterprise apps. Most of the fancy CSS frameworks you see are for consumer apps.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    >I’d like a good framework for enterprise apps. Most of the fancy CSS frameworks you see are for consumer apps. And there's a difference?
    - matte_black 8y ago
      A massive difference. Enterprise apps are all about getting as much information on screen as possible with clear boundaries between different elements and relationships. No optimistic actions either.
      - coldtea 8y ago
        >Enterprise apps are all about getting as much information on screen as possible with clear boundaries between different elements and relationships. That's a UI design thing. Nothing to do with the underlying framework.
        matte_black 8y ago
        Frameworks by design often discourage or make it cumbersome to design enterprise UI. Material design for instance is a piece of shit for enterprise apps.
- jordache 8y ago
  that storybook seems to have a small subset of what's cataloged in the OP's link. Partial implementation?
newsbinator 8y ago
Same here. I wonder what I should use instead. I'd like something much lighter weight, but still opinionated, with well-defined components to take off the shelf.

lima 8y ago

I'm not a Red Hat employee (though mostly working within the ecosystem), and I'm going to use PatternFly for an upcoming commercial project. I also noticed that some PRs take a long time to merge, mostly due to there being a lot of review comments and fixes. For each PR that touches CSS/HTML, they also have a designer check for accessibility and usability issues. It's a feature, not a bug ;-) The reason I like PatternFly is their emphasis on usability. I work on enterprise software, and people are going to rely on it for their day-to-day work. Most CSS frameworks are really fancy, but bad for usability (lots of white space, low contrast, hard to navigate using a keyboard). PatternFly is the opposite. Here's the React storybook, for a quick overview: (React is what most RH products seem to use nowadays) https://rawgit.com/patternfly/patternfly-react/gh-pages/index.html https://rawgit.com/patternfly/patternfly-react/gh-pages/inde...

matte_black 8y ago
What you are referring to is exactly why I wanted to use it, I’d like a good framework for enterprise apps. Most of the fancy CSS frameworks you see are for consumer apps.
- coldtea 8y ago
  >I’d like a good framework for enterprise apps. Most of the fancy CSS frameworks you see are for consumer apps. And there's a difference?
  - matte_black 8y ago
    A massive difference. Enterprise apps are all about getting as much information on screen as possible with clear boundaries between different elements and relationships. No optimistic actions either.
    - coldtea 8y ago
      >Enterprise apps are all about getting as much information on screen as possible with clear boundaries between different elements and relationships. That's a UI design thing. Nothing to do with the underlying framework.
      - matte_black 8y ago
        Frameworks by design often discourage or make it cumbersome to design enterprise UI. Material design for instance is a piece of shit for enterprise apps.
jordache 8y ago
that storybook seems to have a small subset of what's cataloged in the OP's link. Partial implementation?

newsbinator 8y ago

Same here. I wonder what I should use instead. I'd like something much lighter weight, but still opinionated, with well-defined components to take off the shelf.