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There is so much vegan propaganda for reasons other than health (e.g animal rights, saving the planet) masquerading as science since the early 70s when the "lim

There is so much vegan propaganda for reasons other than health (e.g animal rights, saving the planet) masquerading as science since the early 70s when the "limits to growth" and "the population bomb" were published that it's hard to not just throw it all out. A recent egregious example was the netflix propaganda piece "What The Health" which was so over the top vegan propaganda that a long debunk article was written by just about every non-vegetarian health writer of note.

Toine 8y ago
What is wrong with "vegan propaganda" ? Plant-based diets aren't a religion (except for some). What is wrong with propaganda that's good for people ? Let me guess : you LOVE eating meat and you don't want to stop. You're scared by people wanting to take your meat away. So you just call all what they say "vegan propaganda" and be done with it. The fact that you just used the "science" argument to justify your meat consumption is absolutely insane to me. Modern meat consumption HAS enormous consequences, that's a science fact. Stop trying to accomodate reality to your convenience.
- narrator 8y ago
  So a lie or distortion (propaganda) about the health impact of eating meat is totally ok if it supports veganism because you're going to save the earth or save animals? Then I'm just describing reality in my post and you seem to be confirming it and you are mad that I don't agree with you that lying to people is great.
Havoc 8y ago
There will always be some craziest on either side of these arguments - that shouldn't be the focus & detracts from sound arguments. >reasons other than health (e.g animal rights I don't much care for the concept of animal rights, but having inspected a handful of industrial scale farm ops I can kinda see where they're coming from. Lots of disgusting stuff & it doesn't seem isolated either.

Toine 8y ago

What is wrong with "vegan propaganda" ? Plant-based diets aren't a religion (except for some). What is wrong with propaganda that's good for people ? Let me guess : you LOVE eating meat and you don't want to stop. You're scared by people wanting to take your meat away. So you just call all what they say "vegan propaganda" and be done with it. The fact that you just used the "science" argument to justify your meat consumption is absolutely insane to me. Modern meat consumption HAS enormous consequences, that's a science fact. Stop trying to accomodate reality to your convenience.

narrator 8y ago
So a lie or distortion (propaganda) about the health impact of eating meat is totally ok if it supports veganism because you're going to save the earth or save animals? Then I'm just describing reality in my post and you seem to be confirming it and you are mad that I don't agree with you that lying to people is great.

Havoc 8y ago

There will always be some craziest on either side of these arguments - that shouldn't be the focus & detracts from sound arguments. >reasons other than health (e.g animal rights I don't much care for the concept of animal rights, but having inspected a handful of industrial scale farm ops I can kinda see where they're coming from. Lots of disgusting stuff & it doesn't seem isolated either.