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Isn't using this sort of thing against YouTube tos?

gsich 8y ago
Somewhat doubt it. I periodically download my favorites and liked videos. Hate it when videos get deleted and you don't even know the name of it.
jwilk 8y ago
Yes: 4C. You agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Service itself, the Embeddable Player, or other explicitly authorized means YouTube may designate. Source: https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=US&template=terms https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=US&template=terms
- textmode 8y ago
  How to define "the video playback pages"? Is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[videoID] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[videoID] a "video playback page"? Most "YouTube downloaders", just like any popular web browser, access the Content through these pages. These pages contain the (escaped) URLs for the video in various formats. Do the terms restrict the software, e.g. HTTP client, one can use to access to these URLs? For example, "You agree not to access Content through any software other than Google Chrome, official Google mobile app, etc." If a user prefers some other http client not approved by Google, is that a violation of the ToS?
  - gsich 8y ago
    I think they try to say "browser" without actually saying it. Who knows why.
    - posterboy 8y ago
      The less specific, the more wiggle room for lawyers. You know perfectly well that they don't offer download buttons. I'm actually surprised that ytdl still works, so I guess it's not a serious problem actually and no need to obscure further than they already do. I as an amateur could not figure out how to get the files of yt or soundcloud. Reading scdl.py it looked simple enough but I'd need to register a developer api key. For ytdl I guess the source has become bloated and obscure by now so i wouldn't even try. Having a bunch of dependencies already seemed too cluttered.
- isostatic 8y ago
  As you can clearly use youtube without agreeing to those terms, I'm not sure how they would be enforceable
distances 8y ago
Maybe technically against the terms, but frankly, I think pretty much no-one will find it immoral if it's for your own use only and you're not distributing. Probably even explicitly legal in many jurisdictions that allow personal copies.
- k__ 8y ago
  I guess it's country specific.
paul7986 8y ago
You can have it on the web with no issues until it gets popular as the music biz had one of these sites shut down. If it’s just a github repo project not making any money then unless it gets crazy popular you should be fine.

Somewhat doubt it. I periodically download my favorites and liked videos. Hate it when videos get deleted and you don't even know the name of it.

jwilk 8y ago

Yes: 4C. You agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Service itself, the Embeddable Player, or other explicitly authorized means YouTube may designate. Source: https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=US&template=terms https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=US&template=terms

textmode 8y ago
How to define "the video playback pages"? Is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[videoID] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[videoID] a "video playback page"? Most "YouTube downloaders", just like any popular web browser, access the Content through these pages. These pages contain the (escaped) URLs for the video in various formats. Do the terms restrict the software, e.g. HTTP client, one can use to access to these URLs? For example, "You agree not to access Content through any software other than Google Chrome, official Google mobile app, etc." If a user prefers some other http client not approved by Google, is that a violation of the ToS?
- gsich 8y ago
  I think they try to say "browser" without actually saying it. Who knows why.
  - posterboy 8y ago
    The less specific, the more wiggle room for lawyers. You know perfectly well that they don't offer download buttons. I'm actually surprised that ytdl still works, so I guess it's not a serious problem actually and no need to obscure further than they already do. I as an amateur could not figure out how to get the files of yt or soundcloud. Reading scdl.py it looked simple enough but I'd need to register a developer api key. For ytdl I guess the source has become bloated and obscure by now so i wouldn't even try. Having a bunch of dependencies already seemed too cluttered.
isostatic 8y ago
As you can clearly use youtube without agreeing to those terms, I'm not sure how they would be enforceable

distances 8y ago

Maybe technically against the terms, but frankly, I think pretty much no-one will find it immoral if it's for your own use only and you're not distributing. Probably even explicitly legal in many jurisdictions that allow personal copies.

k__ 8y ago
I guess it's country specific.

paul7986 8y ago

You can have it on the web with no issues until it gets popular as the music biz had one of these sites shut down. If it’s just a github repo project not making any money then unless it gets crazy popular you should be fine.