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I'm with you. Red Hat is trying to stay relevant, but it seems that their management has no idea what is going on...or what to do outside of RHEL.

lima 8y ago
IMO Red Hat has been on top of recent developments. OpenShift is (arguably) the best PaaS Kubernetes distribution, and certainly the most enterprise-ready one. I use it in production and it's a great piece of engineering. They heavily contribute back to Kubernetes upstream instead of forking it. Red Hat is responsible for many important Kubernetes features like RBAC. They acquired Ansible and, recently, CoreOS. Software Collections make it really easy to run an up-to-date software stack on RHEL by decoupling it from the base OS (which is the way to go, IMO). And of all the IdPs I recently evaluated, Keycloak sucks the least.
- Annatar 8y ago
  The thing is, all of that is like stone tools are to spaceships when compared with SmartOS and Triton.
  - lima 8y ago
    Legitimately curious: the main issue with running containers on Linux is the bad state of the Linux kernel as far as security is concerned. Even with SELinux, it's risky to run multi-tenant containers on Linux due to the massive attack surface, necessitating things like [1] or lightweight VMs. How does SmartOS solve this? Also, does the Joyent stack have an OpenShift equivalent? Triton wants my credit card details to sign up with their public cloud, but I might grab a spare box and give it a try. [1]: https://github.com/google/gvisor https://github.com/google/gvisor
    - Annatar 8y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17067854 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17067854 ...if after reading that you still have specific questions, ask. You don't need a credit card, if you don't want to run it on Joyent's servers, you can run Triton for free on your own at home, at work, (or someone else's) infrastructure. All of that technology is freely available at Github at no cost other than reading a little bit of documentation and investing some time to set it up following the instructions. Out of curiosity, do Digital Ocean, Hetzner, Azure or AWS not ask for a credit card?
      - Annatar 8y ago
        What exactly did I write above, that made you so angry? I’m baffled.
  - otterley 8y ago
    What difference does it make, though, if the world is largely satisfied with the "inferior" tooling? To wit: http://dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html http://dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html
    - Annatar 8y ago
      Well, one is forced to work with that inferior tooling and is not allowed to change it. This is excruciatingly painful and generates a lot of resent when one knows that there is far superior tooling available, gratis, with much higher quality support and way more competent engineers working on that tooling.

lima 8y ago

IMO Red Hat has been on top of recent developments. OpenShift is (arguably) the best PaaS Kubernetes distribution, and certainly the most enterprise-ready one. I use it in production and it's a great piece of engineering. They heavily contribute back to Kubernetes upstream instead of forking it. Red Hat is responsible for many important Kubernetes features like RBAC. They acquired Ansible and, recently, CoreOS. Software Collections make it really easy to run an up-to-date software stack on RHEL by decoupling it from the base OS (which is the way to go, IMO). And of all the IdPs I recently evaluated, Keycloak sucks the least.

Annatar 8y ago
The thing is, all of that is like stone tools are to spaceships when compared with SmartOS and Triton.
- lima 8y ago
  Legitimately curious: the main issue with running containers on Linux is the bad state of the Linux kernel as far as security is concerned. Even with SELinux, it's risky to run multi-tenant containers on Linux due to the massive attack surface, necessitating things like [1] or lightweight VMs. How does SmartOS solve this? Also, does the Joyent stack have an OpenShift equivalent? Triton wants my credit card details to sign up with their public cloud, but I might grab a spare box and give it a try. [1]: https://github.com/google/gvisor https://github.com/google/gvisor
  - Annatar 8y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17067854 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17067854 ...if after reading that you still have specific questions, ask. You don't need a credit card, if you don't want to run it on Joyent's servers, you can run Triton for free on your own at home, at work, (or someone else's) infrastructure. All of that technology is freely available at Github at no cost other than reading a little bit of documentation and investing some time to set it up following the instructions. Out of curiosity, do Digital Ocean, Hetzner, Azure or AWS not ask for a credit card?
    - Annatar 8y ago
      What exactly did I write above, that made you so angry? I’m baffled.
- otterley 8y ago
  What difference does it make, though, if the world is largely satisfied with the "inferior" tooling? To wit: http://dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html http://dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html
  - Annatar 8y ago
    Well, one is forced to work with that inferior tooling and is not allowed to change it. This is excruciatingly painful and generates a lot of resent when one knows that there is far superior tooling available, gratis, with much higher quality support and way more competent engineers working on that tooling.