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Has this occurred more than 5 years ago? Because if not, you're not out of the woods. I hired the attorney too. I thought (and he thought) it wasn't ever goi

Has this occurred more than 5 years ago? Because if not, you're not out of the woods. I hired the attorney too. I thought (and he thought) it wasn't ever going to make it to court. I moved on to a different job in a different state. Years later, surprise surprise. NEVER say anything but the word "lawyer" to a law enforcement official. FBI agents make a policy of not recording interrogations (euphemistically referred to as "interviews") with anything but their own notes. Every word you thought he was trying to put in your mouth, he did, successfully, and when and if it makes it into court, it's your word against his, and nobody will believe you.

qop 8y ago
Yeah this was in 2002. I never heard anything since then about it. I realized later how badly I fucked up that second interview because you're right, I shouldnt have said anything. It's embarrassing but I was more or less "good fed, bad fed"'d. I've not had any major incidents of this nature since then, but rest assured, I know what to do now. Were you a contractor too, or a state employee? How bad did it end up?
- mchannon 8y ago
  Pretty bad. It hasn't ended yet, and it won't for years to come. The bad part is that the agent's notes can be used to convict not only you, but other innocent parties as well. That happened with me- I've never talked to an FBI agent in my life, but after being woken up half-naked with 17+ FBI agents storming the house and pointing M4 assault rifles at her head, trapped in a fenced backyard, my wife did talk to them, no Miranda warning (2011). Naturally, half the things in the notes were literally impossible for her to have said. The agent himself didn't even memorialize them in a 302 until 2 days after the whole-house search and seizure. That was good enough for the judge to call it consensual and admissible. For more details, mattchannon dot org.
  - qop 8y ago
    Good God, it's depressing what they're capable of.
quickthrower2 8y ago
Don't talk to police: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE What to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8S4isIxo2w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8S4isIxo2w It's simple really: https://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=2897 https://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=2897

qop 8y ago

Yeah this was in 2002. I never heard anything since then about it. I realized later how badly I fucked up that second interview because you're right, I shouldnt have said anything. It's embarrassing but I was more or less "good fed, bad fed"'d. I've not had any major incidents of this nature since then, but rest assured, I know what to do now. Were you a contractor too, or a state employee? How bad did it end up?

mchannon 8y ago
Pretty bad. It hasn't ended yet, and it won't for years to come. The bad part is that the agent's notes can be used to convict not only you, but other innocent parties as well. That happened with me- I've never talked to an FBI agent in my life, but after being woken up half-naked with 17+ FBI agents storming the house and pointing M4 assault rifles at her head, trapped in a fenced backyard, my wife did talk to them, no Miranda warning (2011). Naturally, half the things in the notes were literally impossible for her to have said. The agent himself didn't even memorialize them in a 302 until 2 days after the whole-house search and seizure. That was good enough for the judge to call it consensual and admissible. For more details, mattchannon dot org.
- qop 8y ago
  Good God, it's depressing what they're capable of.

quickthrower2 8y ago

Don't talk to police: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE What to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8S4isIxo2w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8S4isIxo2w It's simple really: https://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=2897 https://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=2897