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Amazing. But that's why everyone uses ad blockers. It's just unusable otherwise

smackay 8y ago
You still have the issue that the content must be of a form that a) attracts advertisers and b) attracts readers, so ad-blockers are only partially effective, you are still consuming content that is written with (consumption of) advertising in mind. I don't think there is any solution for that when visitors to the web site are the primary source of income for the individual or organisation behind it. All schemes, even Basic Income for journalists, are flawed in some way if you rely on single sources for what you would consider authoritative sources of information. A return to the Coffee Shop model, as advocated by The Economist, seems to be the most viable, given current human nature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_coffeehouses_in_the_17th_and_18th_centuries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_coffeehouses_in_the_17...
Ileca 8y ago
But is everyone really using ad-blockers? I thought it was obvious, like you, I mean, why wouldn't people use ad-blockers and keep living inside a garbage typhoon? Then, I saw some "studies" [1] saying the total of users relying on ad-blockers is ridiculous, like not even 1/5. It's baffling but seems like most people are still struggling against pop-ups. [1] https://pagefair.com/downloads/2017/01/PageFair-2017-Adblock-Report.pdf https://pagefair.com/downloads/2017/01/PageFair-2017-Adblock... (If this study lies, what wouldn't surprised me to the slightest, it would be by inflating the numbers, considering they sell counter-measures.)
- Saaster 8y ago
  Most people are using whatever is the default browser on their mobile phone. And if they do use a desktop, most users still struggle with the single-vs-double-click, never mind the right-side mouse button.
  - pavlov 8y ago
    Most people also don't understand the difference between a URL and a Google search. Installing an ad blocker is way beyond their understanding of how the web works.
- nkkollaw 8y ago
  Yes, definitely. I meant everyone that even talks about these things, like us for instance.

You still have the issue that the content must be of a form that a) attracts advertisers and b) attracts readers, so ad-blockers are only partially effective, you are still consuming content that is written with (consumption of) advertising in mind. I don't think there is any solution for that when visitors to the web site are the primary source of income for the individual or organisation behind it. All schemes, even Basic Income for journalists, are flawed in some way if you rely on single sources for what you would consider authoritative sources of information. A return to the Coffee Shop model, as advocated by The Economist, seems to be the most viable, given current human nature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_coffeehouses_in_the_17th_and_18th_centuries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_coffeehouses_in_the_17...

Ileca 8y ago

But is everyone really using ad-blockers? I thought it was obvious, like you, I mean, why wouldn't people use ad-blockers and keep living inside a garbage typhoon? Then, I saw some "studies" [1] saying the total of users relying on ad-blockers is ridiculous, like not even 1/5. It's baffling but seems like most people are still struggling against pop-ups. [1] https://pagefair.com/downloads/2017/01/PageFair-2017-Adblock-Report.pdf https://pagefair.com/downloads/2017/01/PageFair-2017-Adblock... (If this study lies, what wouldn't surprised me to the slightest, it would be by inflating the numbers, considering they sell counter-measures.)

Saaster 8y ago
Most people are using whatever is the default browser on their mobile phone. And if they do use a desktop, most users still struggle with the single-vs-double-click, never mind the right-side mouse button.
- pavlov 8y ago
  Most people also don't understand the difference between a URL and a Google search. Installing an ad blocker is way beyond their understanding of how the web works.
nkkollaw 8y ago
Yes, definitely. I meant everyone that even talks about these things, like us for instance.