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The people who said it would be a massive boondoggle then went out of their way to make it a massive boondoggle. I guess the mistake California made was not rea
by Apes 8y ago
The people who said it would be a massive boondoggle then went out of their way to make it a massive boondoggle. I guess the mistake California made was not realizing they weren't making a prediction, but a threat.
- AndrewBissell 8y agoYes, it was quite nefarious of them to alter the laws of physics and geology to make tunneling through the mountains outside LA into a nigh-impossible engineering task.
- AFNobody 8y agoCorrect, there is no freeway that passes through those impassable mountains. /s
- Gargoyle 8y agoHave you been on that freeway? It's not really a bullet train-friendly route.
- AFNobody 8y agoHave you bothered to look around when you drove through it? The amount of tunneling/demolition involved is quite viable. lol.
- mmt 8y agoUmm.. I'd say that merely looking, especially by a non-expert, is more than just a little naive. A famous civil engineer, no less than William Mulholland, had his career ended by the geology of those hills.
- AFNobody 8y agoA dam built on a 1920s understanding of geology and dam construction is your argument. And you are ignoring the fact they are trying to tunnel through something with very similar geology. Okay.
- mmt 8y agoMy argument is twofold: Firstly, that merely visually observing the surface of a mountain ("look around when you drove through it") is insufficient to draw meaningful conclusions about the overall geology from an engineering perspective, especially by a non-expert. Secondly, that even experts have been confounded by the geological features of that particular mountain range. If you're implying that my referring to an engineering project from approximately a century ago somehow makes it irrelevant, then you'd need to point out some fundamental engineering changes in tunneling and/or demolition (or the study of geology) as they relate to viability thereof, to be an actual argument/refutation.
- AFNobody 8y agoYou are aware it literally has a train line through it used by no less than the LA metro right?
- melling 8y agoI’m not from CA, so maybe I have it wrong but I thought acquiring all the land is the reason the project is so expensive.