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What does it mean for a website to "cater" to just my home country? The internet doesn't know political boundaries and most sites cater to all visitors on some

by eli 8y ago

What does it mean for a website to "cater" to just my home country? The internet doesn't know political boundaries and most sites cater to all visitors on some marginal level.

takeitto 8y ago
The internet doesn't know, but e-commerce/data business pretty darn well knows where their customers/users are situated. The old web was mostly static websites. We spoke of visitors. The new web is app-ified/interactive, walled off to logged-in agreement-abiding geolocated users, and even a single logged-out "visit" broadcasts this to 100s of trackers who will remember your every move online.
- eli 8y ago
  Odds are whatever you were using on the old web to measure visitors would be a data processing activity under GDPR.
  - ForHackernews 8y ago
    If you aren't collecting and storing PII, you have nothing to fear from the GDPR. Even if you are, you're fine as long as you only collect what you legitimately need to offer your services.
    - brassattax 8y ago
      including targeted advertising campaigns?
      - ForHackernews 8y ago
        IANAL, but if your company is a targeted marketing company (think Groupon) and users sign up explicitly to get sent offers, then you're probably in the clear. If your company offers some other service, but you also want to sell your users' data for targeted marketing, the GDPR requires you ask for and get real consent.
askmike 8y ago
Most websites are products nowadays. If you have a simple blog without trackers and ads this is really not going to effect you that much. > The internet doesn't know political boundaries Tell that to this US law the whole world has to comply with to called DMCA.
- eli 8y ago
  Even my simple blog with no ads has google analytics on it. I don't feel like I was doing anything wrong or abusive, but I guess there's a case to be made. I assure you I have been against the DMCA since before it passed, though I don't think it's quite the same nor do two wrongs make a right.
  - ForHackernews 8y ago
    Maybe you aren't, but Google probably is. You're helping Google monitor individuals everywhere they go online.
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  - AnaniasAnanas 8y ago
    > Even my simple blog with no ads has google analytics on it. I would suggest that you remove google analytics then. It only causes harm.
- manfredo 8y ago
  > Tell that to this US law the whole world has to comply to called DMCA. If a site has no US presence and blocks all users in the US, what negative repercussion can violating the DMCA incur? Maybe their domain can be siezed, but that can be avoided by not having a domain hosted in the US. The US could block all traffic to the site, but that should be moot if the site has no US users.
  - isostatic 8y ago

by eli 8y ago

What does it mean for a website to "cater" to just my home country? The internet doesn't know political boundaries and most sites cater to all visitors on some marginal level.

takeitto 8y ago

The internet doesn't know, but e-commerce/data business pretty darn well knows where their customers/users are situated. The old web was mostly static websites. We spoke of visitors. The new web is app-ified/interactive, walled off to logged-in agreement-abiding geolocated users, and even a single logged-out "visit" broadcasts this to 100s of trackers who will remember your every move online.

eli 8y ago
Odds are whatever you were using on the old web to measure visitors would be a data processing activity under GDPR.
- ForHackernews 8y ago
  If you aren't collecting and storing PII, you have nothing to fear from the GDPR. Even if you are, you're fine as long as you only collect what you legitimately need to offer your services.
  - brassattax 8y ago
    including targeted advertising campaigns?
    - ForHackernews 8y ago
      IANAL, but if your company is a targeted marketing company (think Groupon) and users sign up explicitly to get sent offers, then you're probably in the clear. If your company offers some other service, but you also want to sell your users' data for targeted marketing, the GDPR requires you ask for and get real consent.

askmike 8y ago

Most websites are products nowadays. If you have a simple blog without trackers and ads this is really not going to effect you that much. > The internet doesn't know political boundaries Tell that to this US law the whole world has to comply with to called DMCA.

eli 8y ago
Even my simple blog with no ads has google analytics on it. I don't feel like I was doing anything wrong or abusive, but I guess there's a case to be made. I assure you I have been against the DMCA since before it passed, though I don't think it's quite the same nor do two wrongs make a right.
- ForHackernews 8y ago
  Maybe you aren't, but Google probably is. You're helping Google monitor individuals everywhere they go online.
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    [deleted]
- AnaniasAnanas 8y ago
  > Even my simple blog with no ads has google analytics on it. I would suggest that you remove google analytics then. It only causes harm.
manfredo 8y ago
> Tell that to this US law the whole world has to comply to called DMCA. If a site has no US presence and blocks all users in the US, what negative repercussion can violating the DMCA incur? Maybe their domain can be siezed, but that can be avoided by not having a domain hosted in the US. The US could block all traffic to the site, but that should be moot if the site has no US users.
- isostatic 8y ago