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> You assume that just because someone doesn’t want to got through all the hassle of being GDPR compliant that the website is somehow bad? If they are not coll

by voidr 8y ago

> You assume that just because someone doesn’t want to got through all the hassle of being GDPR compliant that the website is somehow bad? If they are not collecting any personal data, there is no hassle. Do you think it's somehow bad for a car manufacturer to not want to go through the hassle of making their cars conform to the safety standards? > Among other things this includes setting up an EU represeneitive Citation needed. > a high bar for a free product The product is not really free because users pay for it with their data, which was unclear before. > Obviously you haven’t had to deal with GDPR compliance. Obviously from what? Are you a GDPR compliance expert?

lajhsdfkl 8y ago
>Obviously from what? Are you a GDPR compliance expert? You don't need to be a GDPR compliance expert to know that the costs of implementing GDPR are huge and I doubt any GDPR experts actually even exist today.
- whatev3r 8y ago
  > You don't need to be a GDPR compliance expert to know that the costs of implementing GDPR are huge So you don't actually know anything, but you are going to pretend to know that it's "huge". > I doubt any GDPR experts actually even exist today Then why be so condescending and pretend that you are actually one?
  - rdlecler1 8y ago
    You only have had to gone through the implementation challenges personally to know that it’s hard and the costs (to do it by the letter) are high. In fact to do it by the letter you’re going to have to hire a law firm to ensure you’re compliant and they’re going to err on the side of caution and take you down a rabbit hole of implementation changes.
    - whatev3r 8y ago
      Can you give me a concrete example where the GDPR forces you to do a lot of relatively costly stuff that are not worth doing otherwise?
      - rdlecler1 8y ago
        I did. First hire a lawyer to review your GDPR compliance and recommend changes, and also set up an EU representative who can assume liability.
wilsonnb 8y ago
> Do you think it's somehow bad for a car manufacturer to not want to go through the hassle of making their cars conform to the safety standards? Ah yes, the old "all regulations are equal" argument. It should come as no surprise to you that people view safety regulations on automobiles as vastly different than regulations on what a company can do with data about you.
- Spivak 8y ago
  And there are people that think that seat-belt laws are an affront to human dignity. What's the point? Safety regulations exist because people wanted them, and the same is true here for privacy and data protections. Unless you can convince EU citizens en mass that they don't want the rights and protections afforded to them by this law then it really doesn't matter what anyone in particular person thinks.

by voidr 8y ago

lajhsdfkl 8y ago

>Obviously from what? Are you a GDPR compliance expert? You don't need to be a GDPR compliance expert to know that the costs of implementing GDPR are huge and I doubt any GDPR experts actually even exist today.

whatev3r 8y ago
> You don't need to be a GDPR compliance expert to know that the costs of implementing GDPR are huge So you don't actually know anything, but you are going to pretend to know that it's "huge". > I doubt any GDPR experts actually even exist today Then why be so condescending and pretend that you are actually one?
- rdlecler1 8y ago
  You only have had to gone through the implementation challenges personally to know that it’s hard and the costs (to do it by the letter) are high. In fact to do it by the letter you’re going to have to hire a law firm to ensure you’re compliant and they’re going to err on the side of caution and take you down a rabbit hole of implementation changes.
  - whatev3r 8y ago
    Can you give me a concrete example where the GDPR forces you to do a lot of relatively costly stuff that are not worth doing otherwise?
    - rdlecler1 8y ago
      I did. First hire a lawyer to review your GDPR compliance and recommend changes, and also set up an EU representative who can assume liability.

wilsonnb 8y ago

> Do you think it's somehow bad for a car manufacturer to not want to go through the hassle of making their cars conform to the safety standards? Ah yes, the old "all regulations are equal" argument. It should come as no surprise to you that people view safety regulations on automobiles as vastly different than regulations on what a company can do with data about you.

Spivak 8y ago
And there are people that think that seat-belt laws are an affront to human dignity. What's the point? Safety regulations exist because people wanted them, and the same is true here for privacy and data protections. Unless you can convince EU citizens en mass that they don't want the rights and protections afforded to them by this law then it really doesn't matter what anyone in particular person thinks.