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> and isn't given an option to decline consent to Googles ToS You can turn off the phone and sell it on Ebay
by kowdermeister 8y ago
> and isn't given an option to decline consent to Googles ToS
You can turn off the phone and sell it on Ebay
- letsgetphysITal 8y agoHobson's Choice regarding tracking / data collection consent is specifically a breach of GDPR.
- kowdermeister 8y agoThe option to refuse the new terms is there, it's just not explicit. I'm not saying this is nice or good, but OP's comment sounded like there's no option, they just made it less obvious.
- freehunter 8y agoLess obvious and not explicit terms are violations of GDPR.
- dvfjsdhgfv 8y agoIf you live in the USA. However, as an European you have more rights, and in the next years we will witness a lot of battles between EU users and American corporations desperately trying to maintain the old status quo.
- dvfjsdhgfv 8y agoTo downvoters: I'm curious to hear your counter-arguments. Yes, as a European I have more rights related to personal data than Americans. American companies can continue playing the same old tricks on American citizens with no consequences. It's not possible to do the same to Europeans anymore.
- kodablah 8y agoYou were probably downvoted for your the absoluteness of your statement. For instance, you do not have more rights as a European business owner. Even as just a user, you have fewer rights to enter agreements now with these tech companies free from government involvement. What you may call rights, others call restrictions and limitations of rights.
- frockington 8y agoAgreed. As an American, reading the term rights associated with increased government control is nonsensical. I understand the European viewpoint, its just much different in America
- dvfjsdhgfv 8y agoThis is actually very interesting. It seems to me that many Americans really don't care how their personal data are (ab)used and will happily agree to absurd ToS-es without complaining. In Europe, we have quite different culture of doing things. And yes, the misnomed "right to be forgotten", i.e. the ability to remove my own personal data from a website, is an important right. Not being tracked is an important right. Not being profiled - ditto. It's really shocking to me that the narrative in the USA is that GDPR is evil, whereas many people in Europe consider it a very positive development, in spite of additional work that needs to be done.
- frockington 8y agoAmericans for the most part hates being told what to do by the government. For me, I hate it because government intervention tends to cripple economic growth. I value economic growth > social welfare (used in the non derogatory way, in America "welfare" has an immediate negative connotation). I am also aware of this and can understand why other cultures would reverse that equation
- dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
- tomatotomato37 8y agoI'm actually kinda curious what role the US government will end up playing in all of this
- taysic 8y agoSo far Google and FB has no complaints about GDPR - that was the word from EU regulators. Why would you think they are so desperate?