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> I mean, using a file-sharing service (which one person did) isn't really different from emailing them to me. It's just more convenient/advanced. You should a

> I mean, using a file-sharing service (which one person did) isn't really different from emailing them to me. It's just more convenient/advanced. You should also avoid mailing them around. Better rent some personal webspace/server (rule of thumb: if you do not pay for it, you are not the customer, but the product), put it there and create for everybody who should have access to the data a private account. EDIT: If you must mail the data around, encrypt it beforehand.

TulliusCicero 8y ago
> Better rent some personal webspace/server (rule of thumb: if you do not pay for it, you are not the customer, but the product), put it there and create for everybody who should have access to the data a private account. There needs to be a name for this kind of suggestion on places like Hacker News, where someone suggests renting your own server or compiling the program from source yourself or anything else that is very obviously beyond the interest and/or capabilities of the average user. > EDIT: If you must mail the data around, encrypt it beforehand. Haha, yes!
- wolfgke 8y ago
  > There needs to be a name for this kind of suggestion on places like Hacker News, where someone suggests renting your own server or compiling the program from source yourself or anything else that is very obviously beyond the interest and/or capabilities of the average user. I admit that things like server adminstration etc. have to become much easier, so that more "average" people are able to do that (and with this I do not mean: "drop another level of abstraction upon GNU/Linux"). But I know people who openly stop communicating with people who do not respect their privacy in terms of communication, since for example this means that these people are willing to extradite them to three latter agencies.
  - TulliusCicero 8y ago
    > I admit that things like server adminstration etc. have to become much easier, so that more "average" people are able to do that (and with this I do not mean: "drop another level of abstraction upon GNU/Linux"). Nah, they don't have to. Because the current setup works fine for regular users. It's principled, privacy-conscious/free-software-promoting power users like yourself that want them to care even though they really don't give a shit. > But I know people who openly stop communicating with people who do not respect their privacy in terms of communication, since for example this means that these people are willing to extradite them to three latter agencies. You must have some interesting associates, I've never met someone like this.
    - wolfgke 8y ago
      > You must have some interesting associates, I've never met someone like this. Indeed. :-) In some sense I seem to have a tendency to attract some specific breed of people (that is very hard to describe: let's outline them 'really smart people who have not found their place (yet) and are often somewhat quirky') "magnetically". :-)

TulliusCicero 8y ago

> Better rent some personal webspace/server (rule of thumb: if you do not pay for it, you are not the customer, but the product), put it there and create for everybody who should have access to the data a private account. There needs to be a name for this kind of suggestion on places like Hacker News, where someone suggests renting your own server or compiling the program from source yourself or anything else that is very obviously beyond the interest and/or capabilities of the average user. > EDIT: If you must mail the data around, encrypt it beforehand. Haha, yes!

wolfgke 8y ago
> There needs to be a name for this kind of suggestion on places like Hacker News, where someone suggests renting your own server or compiling the program from source yourself or anything else that is very obviously beyond the interest and/or capabilities of the average user. I admit that things like server adminstration etc. have to become much easier, so that more "average" people are able to do that (and with this I do not mean: "drop another level of abstraction upon GNU/Linux"). But I know people who openly stop communicating with people who do not respect their privacy in terms of communication, since for example this means that these people are willing to extradite them to three latter agencies.
- TulliusCicero 8y ago
  > I admit that things like server adminstration etc. have to become much easier, so that more "average" people are able to do that (and with this I do not mean: "drop another level of abstraction upon GNU/Linux"). Nah, they don't have to. Because the current setup works fine for regular users. It's principled, privacy-conscious/free-software-promoting power users like yourself that want them to care even though they really don't give a shit. > But I know people who openly stop communicating with people who do not respect their privacy in terms of communication, since for example this means that these people are willing to extradite them to three latter agencies. You must have some interesting associates, I've never met someone like this.
  - wolfgke 8y ago
    > You must have some interesting associates, I've never met someone like this. Indeed. :-) In some sense I seem to have a tendency to attract some specific breed of people (that is very hard to describe: let's outline them 'really smart people who have not found their place (yet) and are often somewhat quirky') "magnetically". :-)