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This page is hosted by the verge themselves so has absolutely nothing to do with Google trying to control the web. It also does not load slower.

stephenr 8y ago
The concept of amp is google trying to control the web. Also, my understanding is that all amp pages have to load the required js from an amp project cdn, which is ultimately a google cdn. And yes, it most definitely does load slower for me - I have nothing but a blank white page for several seconds.
- criley2 8y ago
  >And yes, it most definitely does load slower for me - I have nothing but a blank white page for several seconds. This is quite obviously an error state, likely caused by an extension of yours. Have you tried using Amp in a fresh install of a different browser? Using different network settings? It seems very likely that you are the reason amp doesn't work for you. And this is coming from an amp hater.
  - stephenr 8y ago
    > Have you tried using Amp in a fresh install of a different browser? Why on earth would I do that? I’m not trying to fix googles broken shit, I’m trying to read a fucking web page, and as it happens the original webpage loads just fine, and ridiculously fast. So again? Why bother? With amp at all I mean. When a company says “we want to make pages load faster on mobile” and their first result is “ok just load up this extra javascript” you should realise that their stated goal is not their actual goal. Web pages can be fast without amp, and load times can be measured. There is zero technical reason google needed to push amp on the world using worse search result rankings as the threat for non compliance. So, tell me again how this is my fucking fault.
  - MrRadar 8y ago
    The issue is that for some reason amp usually seems to block the content from being displayed until the javascript loads, which strikes me as the exact opposite of what an "accelerated mobile page" should do (almost like it was designed by an advertising company wanting to discourage ad blockers...). You can bypass it by activating reader mode in your browser.
    - superkuh 8y ago
      Not only that, but AMP pages are only potentially perceived as 'fast' when you access them through google's search. When you do that all the AMP links' assets are pre-loaded in the background so it seems fast when you click through. But AMP pages themselves are just the same speed as anything else or slower when access without google's monopoly position pre-load.

stephenr 8y ago

The concept of amp is google trying to control the web. Also, my understanding is that all amp pages have to load the required js from an amp project cdn, which is ultimately a google cdn. And yes, it most definitely does load slower for me - I have nothing but a blank white page for several seconds.

criley2 8y ago
>And yes, it most definitely does load slower for me - I have nothing but a blank white page for several seconds. This is quite obviously an error state, likely caused by an extension of yours. Have you tried using Amp in a fresh install of a different browser? Using different network settings? It seems very likely that you are the reason amp doesn't work for you. And this is coming from an amp hater.
- stephenr 8y ago
  > Have you tried using Amp in a fresh install of a different browser? Why on earth would I do that? I’m not trying to fix googles broken shit, I’m trying to read a fucking web page, and as it happens the original webpage loads just fine, and ridiculously fast. So again? Why bother? With amp at all I mean. When a company says “we want to make pages load faster on mobile” and their first result is “ok just load up this extra javascript” you should realise that their stated goal is not their actual goal. Web pages can be fast without amp, and load times can be measured. There is zero technical reason google needed to push amp on the world using worse search result rankings as the threat for non compliance. So, tell me again how this is my fucking fault.
- MrRadar 8y ago
  The issue is that for some reason amp usually seems to block the content from being displayed until the javascript loads, which strikes me as the exact opposite of what an "accelerated mobile page" should do (almost like it was designed by an advertising company wanting to discourage ad blockers...). You can bypass it by activating reader mode in your browser.
  - superkuh 8y ago
    Not only that, but AMP pages are only potentially perceived as 'fast' when you access them through google's search. When you do that all the AMP links' assets are pre-loaded in the background so it seems fast when you click through. But AMP pages themselves are just the same speed as anything else or slower when access without google's monopoly position pre-load.