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Health insurance -> physical letter: security. Kindergarten photos: wouldn‘t want pictures of my kids to end up on the web either, maybe slight, but I guess ju

by sveme 8y ago

Health insurance -> physical letter: security. Kindergarten photos: wouldn‘t want pictures of my kids to end up on the web either, maybe slight, but I guess justified paranoia. AldiTalk: anonymous phones have been illegalized by law a couple of years back. Maybe that? But you could always just recharge via SMS or the web? Don‘t understand that particular point.

TulliusCicero 8y ago
> Kindergarten photos: wouldn‘t want pictures of my kids to end up on the web either, maybe slight, but I guess justified paranoia. I mean, using a file-sharing service (which one person did) isn't really different from emailing them to me. It's just more convenient/advanced. > But you could always just recharge via SMS or the web? Don‘t understand that particular point. At least when I was using it, no. You had to get a letter first to setup a bank transfer method of payment, then you could pay online using the web or app. Otherwise you had to actually go to an Aldi. My wife still does this because she's still on Alditalk and hasn't bothered to get the letter.
- sveme 8y ago
  Regarding emails: if you‘re using gmail, there‘s obviously no point in using emails instead of using google drive. If you used emails associated with web hosting, there‘s a difference.
  - TulliusCicero 8y ago
    I really don't see the difference. If you don't blast the file-sharing link to everybody and their brother, it's the same as emailing the pictures to someone. Either way you're just trusting that the person you're sending the pictures to isn't an asshole.
- wolfgke 8y ago
  > I mean, using a file-sharing service (which one person did) isn't really different from emailing them to me. It's just more convenient/advanced. You should also avoid mailing them around. Better rent some personal webspace/server (rule of thumb: if you do not pay for it, you are not the customer, but the product), put it there and create for everybody who should have access to the data a private account. EDIT: If you must mail the data around, encrypt it beforehand.
  - TulliusCicero 8y ago
    > Better rent some personal webspace/server (rule of thumb: if you do not pay for it, you are not the customer, but the product), put it there and create for everybody who should have access to the data a private account. There needs to be a name for this kind of suggestion on places like Hacker News, where someone suggests renting your own server or compiling the program from source yourself or anything else that is very obviously beyond the interest and/or capabilities of the average user. > EDIT: If you must mail the data around, encrypt it beforehand. Haha, yes!
    - wolfgke 8y ago
      > There needs to be a name for this kind of suggestion on places like Hacker News, where someone suggests renting your own server or compiling the program from source yourself or anything else that is very obviously beyond the interest and/or capabilities of the average user. I admit that things like server adminstration etc. have to become much easier, so that more "average" people are able to do that (and with this I do not mean: "drop another level of abstraction upon GNU/Linux"). But I know people who openly stop communicating with people who do not respect their privacy in terms of communication, since for example this means that these people are willing to extradite them to three latter agencies.
      - TulliusCicero 8y ago
        > I admit that things like server adminstration etc. have to become much easier, so that more "average" people are able to do that (and with this I do not mean: "drop another level of abstraction upon GNU/Linux"). Nah, they don't have to. Because the current setup works fine for regular users. It's principled, privacy-conscious/free-software-promoting power users like yourself that want them to care even though they really don't give a shit. > But I know people who openly stop communicating with people who do not respect their privacy in terms of communication, since for example this means that these people are willing to extradite them to three latter agencies. You must have some interesting associates, I've never met someone like this.

by sveme 8y ago

TulliusCicero 8y ago

> Kindergarten photos: wouldn‘t want pictures of my kids to end up on the web either, maybe slight, but I guess justified paranoia. I mean, using a file-sharing service (which one person did) isn't really different from emailing them to me. It's just more convenient/advanced. > But you could always just recharge via SMS or the web? Don‘t understand that particular point. At least when I was using it, no. You had to get a letter first to setup a bank transfer method of payment, then you could pay online using the web or app. Otherwise you had to actually go to an Aldi. My wife still does this because she's still on Alditalk and hasn't bothered to get the letter.

sveme 8y ago
Regarding emails: if you‘re using gmail, there‘s obviously no point in using emails instead of using google drive. If you used emails associated with web hosting, there‘s a difference.
- TulliusCicero 8y ago
  I really don't see the difference. If you don't blast the file-sharing link to everybody and their brother, it's the same as emailing the pictures to someone. Either way you're just trusting that the person you're sending the pictures to isn't an asshole.
wolfgke 8y ago
> I mean, using a file-sharing service (which one person did) isn't really different from emailing them to me. It's just more convenient/advanced. You should also avoid mailing them around. Better rent some personal webspace/server (rule of thumb: if you do not pay for it, you are not the customer, but the product), put it there and create for everybody who should have access to the data a private account. EDIT: If you must mail the data around, encrypt it beforehand.
- TulliusCicero 8y ago
  > Better rent some personal webspace/server (rule of thumb: if you do not pay for it, you are not the customer, but the product), put it there and create for everybody who should have access to the data a private account. There needs to be a name for this kind of suggestion on places like Hacker News, where someone suggests renting your own server or compiling the program from source yourself or anything else that is very obviously beyond the interest and/or capabilities of the average user. > EDIT: If you must mail the data around, encrypt it beforehand. Haha, yes!
  - wolfgke 8y ago
    > There needs to be a name for this kind of suggestion on places like Hacker News, where someone suggests renting your own server or compiling the program from source yourself or anything else that is very obviously beyond the interest and/or capabilities of the average user. I admit that things like server adminstration etc. have to become much easier, so that more "average" people are able to do that (and with this I do not mean: "drop another level of abstraction upon GNU/Linux"). But I know people who openly stop communicating with people who do not respect their privacy in terms of communication, since for example this means that these people are willing to extradite them to three latter agencies.
    - TulliusCicero 8y ago
      > I admit that things like server adminstration etc. have to become much easier, so that more "average" people are able to do that (and with this I do not mean: "drop another level of abstraction upon GNU/Linux"). Nah, they don't have to. Because the current setup works fine for regular users. It's principled, privacy-conscious/free-software-promoting power users like yourself that want them to care even though they really don't give a shit. > But I know people who openly stop communicating with people who do not respect their privacy in terms of communication, since for example this means that these people are willing to extradite them to three latter agencies. You must have some interesting associates, I've never met someone like this.