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I'm driving a 2018 VW Tiguan Allspace with ACC, Lane Assist, Side Assist and everything. If that's what Autopilot is, i'm scared. In part I ordered those featur

I'm driving a 2018 VW Tiguan Allspace with ACC, Lane Assist, Side Assist and everything. If that's what Autopilot is, i'm scared. In part I ordered those features because of assessments like yours that this is pretty much Autopilot. It isn't. My car can in theory follow the lane, but only in pretty much ideal conditions and even then it sometimes loses the lane and goes straight ahead, even in turns, possibly plowing into oncoming traffic or off the road. If it follows the lane, it does so very broadly, sometimes with driving actually on or a little over the lane in a turn, screaming at me to take control. This is the best case scenario. I can't imagine Autopilot being this bad when looking at YouTube. Don't get me wrong, I love my car and those systems for what they are, but they couldn't be called Autopilot in anyones wildest dreams.

chrisper 8y ago
I am pretty sure VW is advertising them as driver assits and not as autopilot.
- Roritharr 8y ago
  Yes, VW does so, but multiple people in this Thread say that Teslas Autopilot is ACC + Lane Assist. That's what I'm challenging.
  - pavs 8y ago
    Its neither a driver assist or an autonomous car, it's somewhere in between. Which makes it even worse, because the driver is not aware of the limitation unless it's too late. Ramming into stationary Red Firetruck TWICE is not an edge case.
- 1234 8y ago
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bgarbiak 8y ago
The systems in VWs are like that by purpose. Their premium brands do behave better, yet they still not on the level of Tesla's system (I refuse to call it autopilot). Still, no one knows if what Tesla does is indeed that much better, or it just has all the settings set to eleven. Digression: I've seen a direct comparison of all the popular semi-autonomous systems somewhere, but can't find it now. So, take it with a pinch of salt, but from what I recall the only worthy rival to Tesla's system is GM's SuperCruise, and BMW has a somewhat competent lane assist system.
dawnerd 8y ago
I think they intentionally make lane assist kinda sloppy to keep people from using it as self driving. I’m sure if they wanted to tighten it up and allow for more variances in what it thinks are lane markers.

chrisper 8y ago

I am pretty sure VW is advertising them as driver assits and not as autopilot.

Roritharr 8y ago
Yes, VW does so, but multiple people in this Thread say that Teslas Autopilot is ACC + Lane Assist. That's what I'm challenging.
- pavs 8y ago
  Its neither a driver assist or an autonomous car, it's somewhere in between. Which makes it even worse, because the driver is not aware of the limitation unless it's too late. Ramming into stationary Red Firetruck TWICE is not an edge case.
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bgarbiak 8y ago

The systems in VWs are like that by purpose. Their premium brands do behave better, yet they still not on the level of Tesla's system (I refuse to call it autopilot). Still, no one knows if what Tesla does is indeed that much better, or it just has all the settings set to eleven. Digression: I've seen a direct comparison of all the popular semi-autonomous systems somewhere, but can't find it now. So, take it with a pinch of salt, but from what I recall the only worthy rival to Tesla's system is GM's SuperCruise, and BMW has a somewhat competent lane assist system.

dawnerd 8y ago

I think they intentionally make lane assist kinda sloppy to keep people from using it as self driving. I’m sure if they wanted to tighten it up and allow for more variances in what it thinks are lane markers.