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>The design was originally reasonably polarizing/radical. Half the reason these design elements are now so widespread is because everyone immediately copied App

>The design was originally reasonably polarizing/radical. Half the reason these design elements are now so widespread is because everyone immediately copied Apple. The LG Prada was shown off before the introduction of the iPhone. To imply that the iPhone was polarizing/radical and that the LG Prada was not is ridiculous IMO. https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/apple-iphone-vs-lg-prada-separated-at-birth-part-2/ https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/apple-iphone-vs-lg-prada...

berti 8y ago
Until you look at the home screen.. and the hardware buttons... Samsung's problem is that they cloned the iPhone look and feel (aka design).
mattkevan 8y ago
The only reason anyone remembers the LG Prada is to bring it up in this kind of discussion. If it was so radical and ground-breaking, how come LG are an also-ran Android OEM and not the most valuable company ever? It's an asinine argument as it takes the most superficial elements, such as a full touchscreen, conveniently ignoring the actual things that made the iPhone so innovative, such as multitouch UX, proper web browser, full featured operating system, exclusive carrier partnerships and more. Here's what the LG was actually like: * No multitouch * Flash-based UI * T9 keyboard – even though it was a touchscreen it still used predictive text * Basic browser, no pinch to zoom
- reitanqild 8y ago
  > The only reason anyone remembers the LG Prada is to bring it up in this kind of discussion. > If it was so radical and ground-breaking, how come LG are an also-ran Android OEM and not the most valuable company ever? The LG Prada example only destroys the "Apple invented rounded corners" argument. iPhone was groundbreaking. Rhe lawsuits afterwards were ridiculous IMO.
  - mattkevan 8y ago
    'Apple invented rounded corners' is also a wilfully incorrect simplification of the issues. It doesn't matter who invented what first, Samsung deliberately infringed Apple's design patents and were found to do so by the court. As I understand it, design patents are different to normal patents in that prior art is not a consideration. Samsung could have gone in so many different directions with the design. Instead they came up with something that even their own lawyers had trouble distinguishing from an iPhone.
- bitmapbrother 8y ago
  >The only reason anyone remembers the LG Prada is to bring it up in this kind of discussion. The reason people bring up the LG Prada is because it proves the form factor of a touch screen phone with a bottom button existed before the introduction of the iPhone. >If it was so radical and ground-breaking, how come LG are an also-ran Android OEM and not the most valuable company ever? Not all radical and ground breaking designs succeed. The Prada's software was also far from revolutionary or memorable for that matter. >It's an asinine argument as it takes the most superficial elements, such as a full touchscreen, conveniently ignoring the actual things that made the iPhone so innovative, such as multitouch UX, proper web browser, full featured operating system, exclusive carrier partnerships and more. About the only relevant thing you mentioned was having a multi-touch UX on a phone - a technology they didn't invent, but just made popular.

berti 8y ago

Until you look at the home screen.. and the hardware buttons... Samsung's problem is that they cloned the iPhone look and feel (aka design).

mattkevan 8y ago

The only reason anyone remembers the LG Prada is to bring it up in this kind of discussion. If it was so radical and ground-breaking, how come LG are an also-ran Android OEM and not the most valuable company ever? It's an asinine argument as it takes the most superficial elements, such as a full touchscreen, conveniently ignoring the actual things that made the iPhone so innovative, such as multitouch UX, proper web browser, full featured operating system, exclusive carrier partnerships and more. Here's what the LG was actually like: * No multitouch * Flash-based UI * T9 keyboard – even though it was a touchscreen it still used predictive text * Basic browser, no pinch to zoom

reitanqild 8y ago
> The only reason anyone remembers the LG Prada is to bring it up in this kind of discussion. > If it was so radical and ground-breaking, how come LG are an also-ran Android OEM and not the most valuable company ever? The LG Prada example only destroys the "Apple invented rounded corners" argument. iPhone was groundbreaking. Rhe lawsuits afterwards were ridiculous IMO.
- mattkevan 8y ago
  'Apple invented rounded corners' is also a wilfully incorrect simplification of the issues. It doesn't matter who invented what first, Samsung deliberately infringed Apple's design patents and were found to do so by the court. As I understand it, design patents are different to normal patents in that prior art is not a consideration. Samsung could have gone in so many different directions with the design. Instead they came up with something that even their own lawyers had trouble distinguishing from an iPhone.
bitmapbrother 8y ago
>The only reason anyone remembers the LG Prada is to bring it up in this kind of discussion. The reason people bring up the LG Prada is because it proves the form factor of a touch screen phone with a bottom button existed before the introduction of the iPhone. >If it was so radical and ground-breaking, how come LG are an also-ran Android OEM and not the most valuable company ever? Not all radical and ground breaking designs succeed. The Prada's software was also far from revolutionary or memorable for that matter. >It's an asinine argument as it takes the most superficial elements, such as a full touchscreen, conveniently ignoring the actual things that made the iPhone so innovative, such as multitouch UX, proper web browser, full featured operating system, exclusive carrier partnerships and more. About the only relevant thing you mentioned was having a multi-touch UX on a phone - a technology they didn't invent, but just made popular.