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It's a very nice idea but these tools always have limitations that become super annoying after a while. Programming is total freedom to do what you want and th

It's a very nice idea but these tools always have limitations that become super annoying after a while. Programming is total freedom to do what you want and these tools try to make it look like you cab drag and drop data flows together and it will just work in a optimal way. And it will at first, until your first special or odd requirement needs to somehow be implemented in that tool.

murukesh_s 8y ago
Why can't you use a coding widget(not sure if this tool supports it) in those special cases? In that way common things are super easy and you can also tackle those corner cases as well.
- hacker_9 8y ago
  But who is writing the widget? If it's a programmer, then why is he using this tool when most of this stuff is one liners in code anyway? And if it's a non-programmer, he now can't do something that he may have still been able to do in excel.
  - derrikcurran 8y ago
    A non-developer who has access to developers. A developer can be paid to write the widget, which would likely be cheaper, easier, and faster than paying a developer for every minor change. It really depends on context. In a larger organization, for example, the user might have access to plenty of developers but need to open a ticket and wait forever every time they need something.
dcre 8y ago
"total freedom" — never heard of it
DonHopkins 8y ago
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murukesh_s 8y ago

Why can't you use a coding widget(not sure if this tool supports it) in those special cases? In that way common things are super easy and you can also tackle those corner cases as well.

hacker_9 8y ago
But who is writing the widget? If it's a programmer, then why is he using this tool when most of this stuff is one liners in code anyway? And if it's a non-programmer, he now can't do something that he may have still been able to do in excel.
- derrikcurran 8y ago
  A non-developer who has access to developers. A developer can be paid to write the widget, which would likely be cheaper, easier, and faster than paying a developer for every minor change. It really depends on context. In a larger organization, for example, the user might have access to plenty of developers but need to open a ticket and wait forever every time they need something.

dcre 8y ago

"total freedom" — never heard of it

DonHopkins 8y ago

Snap! is a visual "blocks" programming language like Scratch, but with the full power of Scheme: First class functions. Visual lexical closures. User defined blocks including control structures. Macros and special forms. Call with current continuation! Written in JavaScript and easy to integrate with JavaScript libraries. https://snap.berkeley.edu https://snap.berkeley.edu Adding Machine Learning Blocks to Snap! https://s4scoding.com/adding-machine-learning-blocks-to-snap/ https://s4scoding.com/adding-machine-learning-blocks-to-snap... https://project.ecraft2learn.eu/ https://project.ecraft2learn.eu/ https://github.com/ecraft2learn/ai https://github.com/ecraft2learn/ai https://ecraft2learn.github.io/ai/ https://ecraft2learn.github.io/ai/