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Musicians seems to be really bad at this. Red Jumpsuit Apparatus jumps to mind. They used a photo without permission, then proceeded to insult the photographer

Musicians seems to be really bad at this. Red Jumpsuit Apparatus jumps to mind. They used a photo without permission, then proceeded to insult the photographer and tried to blackball him from being a concert photographer, then tried to insult him publicly on Twitter. The photographers main site is down, so this article will have to do: https://petapixel.com/2014/04/21/band-responds-worst-way-possible-stealing-photographers-work/ https://petapixel.com/2014/04/21/band-responds-worst-way-pos... Diplo did a similar thing: https://fstoppers.com/other/famed-music-producer-caught-photographer-drama-8452 https://fstoppers.com/other/famed-music-producer-caught-phot...

stephen_g 8y ago
Film studios also. I recall reading a whole lot of stories about indie bands who have had their music used in films without authorisation or licensing, and have a hard time getting recourse. Pretty bad look given how rabidly the film studios go against even individuals downloading their movies. Basically, I think when it comes down to intellectual property, many people are hypocrites (especially the ones who feel they’re big enough to not get seriously punished)
- TheOtherHobbes 8y ago
  It's not really hypocrisy, so much as an expression of a value system that is essentially opportunistic and amoral. The true morality is greed-driven - make as much money as possible, unless/until some more powerful entity stops you. IP laws have been shaped by that morality. It has pulled them far away from their original intent, which was to reward creators. Large corporations regularly take advantage of their size and power to make sure that they, not the creators, receive value from the work. So if you're surprised that corporate lawyers can appear to contradict their own positions, it's possible you may not have understood what motivates corporate culture.

stephen_g 8y ago

Film studios also. I recall reading a whole lot of stories about indie bands who have had their music used in films without authorisation or licensing, and have a hard time getting recourse. Pretty bad look given how rabidly the film studios go against even individuals downloading their movies. Basically, I think when it comes down to intellectual property, many people are hypocrites (especially the ones who feel they’re big enough to not get seriously punished)

TheOtherHobbes 8y ago
It's not really hypocrisy, so much as an expression of a value system that is essentially opportunistic and amoral. The true morality is greed-driven - make as much money as possible, unless/until some more powerful entity stops you. IP laws have been shaped by that morality. It has pulled them far away from their original intent, which was to reward creators. Large corporations regularly take advantage of their size and power to make sure that they, not the creators, receive value from the work. So if you're surprised that corporate lawyers can appear to contradict their own positions, it's possible you may not have understood what motivates corporate culture.