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It's interesting, while different media has different bias, the internet has made this bias more apparent than it ever has been in history. We can see everythin

It's interesting, while different media has different bias, the internet has made this bias more apparent than it ever has been in history. We can see everything, so the bias reveals itself in whichever direction it leans. People are frustrated by this, and Trump, Musk et. al. are speaking for many people when they voice their frustrations. The media is an essential part of democracy and effective capitalism, but the media must look inwards and focus on ridding itself of bias, otherwise people will continue to protest. Of course that's a massive challenge. Bias stems from foundational beliefs we hold about the world. How do we/media purge ourselves of bias if it means purging ourselves of foundational beliefs that make us who we are as much as anything else?

cmurf 8y ago
Of higher value would be ridding ourselves of liars. The solution to bias, is triangulation. People who don't know about it, or don't want to do it, just want to be spoon fed. And that's a spectator, not a citizen.
- ardent_uno 8y ago
  Liars who hold the attention of millions are few and far between. Skew and bias is ubiquitous and allows small groups with an agenda to direct people away from the raw truth and towards their sanitized or corrupted version of it.
  - cmurf 8y ago
    65 million people voted for someone with a life long habit of lying about ostensibly rather important things, and who's rate of lying continues to increase, and continues to hold the attention of millions. Few and far between taken literally applies to one. But few and far between taken in connotation: that they can't meaningfully affect the lives of many others, and therefore they can be ignored as edge cases, is provably wrong. If you're talking about tinfoil hat nuts, e.g. Alex Jones, sure that's an edge case that doesn't matter and we really can't do anything about it anyway, whether you categorize them as liars (which they are) or bias (which they have). Bias does not imply malice, where lying generally implies either deception or malice or both.

cmurf 8y ago

Of higher value would be ridding ourselves of liars. The solution to bias, is triangulation. People who don't know about it, or don't want to do it, just want to be spoon fed. And that's a spectator, not a citizen.

ardent_uno 8y ago
Liars who hold the attention of millions are few and far between. Skew and bias is ubiquitous and allows small groups with an agenda to direct people away from the raw truth and towards their sanitized or corrupted version of it.
- cmurf 8y ago
  65 million people voted for someone with a life long habit of lying about ostensibly rather important things, and who's rate of lying continues to increase, and continues to hold the attention of millions. Few and far between taken literally applies to one. But few and far between taken in connotation: that they can't meaningfully affect the lives of many others, and therefore they can be ignored as edge cases, is provably wrong. If you're talking about tinfoil hat nuts, e.g. Alex Jones, sure that's an edge case that doesn't matter and we really can't do anything about it anyway, whether you categorize them as liars (which they are) or bias (which they have). Bias does not imply malice, where lying generally implies either deception or malice or both.