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I'm chuckling sensibly to myself at the assertion of Time as a left wing mag.

krapp 8y ago
It seems to be a meme (charitably, or less charitably, an attempt at propaganda) nowadays to consider all mainstream media to be left-wing.
- 52-6F-62 8y ago
  And hilariously don't consider Fox News or Sinclair mainstream in spite of their viewership numbers.
AnimalMuppet 8y ago
See RobertJWagner's top-level comment. Are you chuckling about classic (pre-2000) Time? Or about new (post-2000) Time? Or do you feel that there's no essential difference?
- mturmon 8y ago
  Chuckles just keep coming! Time was never a "left-wing mag", in any era. The Nation, In These Times, Ramparts -- those are/were left-wing mags. Time was always about the establishment, and Great Men, and the vital center.
  - emodendroket 8y ago
    Probably even center-right.
  - cc439 8y ago
    There are many wings in the halls of the left. I'd consider Time as biased to the left but they voiced the ideology of the establishment, coastal, urban leftist elite. They espoused the kind of left wing viewpoints expected of a mainstream Democratic Party politician much the same way as the Wall Street Journal and now Fox News espouses the views of the establishment elite of the right wing. They were to the "Liberals" what those other sources are for "Neoconservatives" while the rest of the wings in their halls find their voice in more fringe outlets. To someone further out on the left, they appear centrist. To someone on the right the leftist-bias immediately places them in the broader category of "leftist" even if they are far closer to the center than most outlets.
- pnathan 8y ago
  A leftwing mag today might be Jacobin or Mother Jones. Directly advocating socialism & other anti-/non-capitalist policies. Time was visibly centrist and general interest, with a skew towards boomers and gen x.
  - emodendroket 8y ago
    Mother Jones these days is pretty much "Hillary Democrat," as far as I can tell. But there are other leftist magazines like the Baffler, n + 1, Current Affairs, and so on.
gravis7777 8y ago
Give me one example of neutral coverage of Trump in the past several issues. I also love that some wittle baby boy flagged my comment because he didn't agree with me. WAHHHHHHHHHHH
- dang 8y ago
  Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

It seems to be a meme (charitably, or less charitably, an attempt at propaganda) nowadays to consider all mainstream media to be left-wing.

52-6F-62 8y ago
And hilariously don't consider Fox News or Sinclair mainstream in spite of their viewership numbers.

AnimalMuppet 8y ago

See RobertJWagner's top-level comment. Are you chuckling about classic (pre-2000) Time? Or about new (post-2000) Time? Or do you feel that there's no essential difference?

mturmon 8y ago
Chuckles just keep coming! Time was never a "left-wing mag", in any era. The Nation, In These Times, Ramparts -- those are/were left-wing mags. Time was always about the establishment, and Great Men, and the vital center.
- emodendroket 8y ago
  Probably even center-right.
- cc439 8y ago
  There are many wings in the halls of the left. I'd consider Time as biased to the left but they voiced the ideology of the establishment, coastal, urban leftist elite. They espoused the kind of left wing viewpoints expected of a mainstream Democratic Party politician much the same way as the Wall Street Journal and now Fox News espouses the views of the establishment elite of the right wing. They were to the "Liberals" what those other sources are for "Neoconservatives" while the rest of the wings in their halls find their voice in more fringe outlets. To someone further out on the left, they appear centrist. To someone on the right the leftist-bias immediately places them in the broader category of "leftist" even if they are far closer to the center than most outlets.
pnathan 8y ago
A leftwing mag today might be Jacobin or Mother Jones. Directly advocating socialism & other anti-/non-capitalist policies. Time was visibly centrist and general interest, with a skew towards boomers and gen x.
- emodendroket 8y ago
  Mother Jones these days is pretty much "Hillary Democrat," as far as I can tell. But there are other leftist magazines like the Baffler, n + 1, Current Affairs, and so on.

gravis7777 8y ago

Give me one example of neutral coverage of Trump in the past several issues. I also love that some wittle baby boy flagged my comment because he didn't agree with me. WAHHHHHHHHHHH

dang 8y ago
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html