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It's also not real intelligence but rather a certain appearance of intelligence. Not saying "y'all" and things like that.

minikites 8y ago
Class absolutely plays a factor. There are plenty of intelligent people who look or act differently than the prototypical white male our society privileges so much who are then written off as stupid and/or unimportant. There are just as many unintelligent people who are nonetheless lionized because they know how to be articulate or charismatic.
tejtm 8y ago
Which is odd as 'y'all' can be a more precise concept distinguishing between singular and plural which my elite northern 'you' does not.
- dabbledash 8y ago
  They just say “you guys” up here. Seems to work just as well.
  - ninkendo 8y ago
    "Guys" isn't gender neutral though.
    - nitrogen 8y ago
      Its modern usage is largely neutral, especially in "you guys". I hear both women and men refer to groups of either women or men using "you guys" or "hey guys".
    - themacguffinman 8y ago
      I mean...you can just say "you all" which is what "y'all" is supposed to abbreviate.
  - gglitch 8y ago
    Maybe, but the second person plural possessive is way easier with the former. Y'all's vs, what, you guys'? When I lived in the midwest I frequently heard "your guys's", which doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
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  - incredible12345 8y ago
    Using the yooper "You's guys" boosts your IQ by about 50 points btw - a proven fact.
cabaalis 8y ago
I never quite understood why "y'all" is singled out as being said by "dumb" people. I've said it my entire life, as well as everyone I know. It's a word. It conveys an idea from the person who says it to the listener to hears it, just like every other utterance since the beginning of time. The only reason I can think of people having a negative opinion of it is some form of audible elitism.
- eigenstuff 8y ago
  Same! I think it also has a lot to do with people looking down on Southerners and stereotyping us as being uneducated/backwards/ignorant.
  - draw_down 8y ago
    Yeah, it sure is a shame when large groups of people in our country are widely prejudged as being inferior to the socially-dominant group. I can’t think of any other examples, though

minikites 8y ago

Class absolutely plays a factor. There are plenty of intelligent people who look or act differently than the prototypical white male our society privileges so much who are then written off as stupid and/or unimportant. There are just as many unintelligent people who are nonetheless lionized because they know how to be articulate or charismatic.

tejtm 8y ago

Which is odd as 'y'all' can be a more precise concept distinguishing between singular and plural which my elite northern 'you' does not.

dabbledash 8y ago
They just say “you guys” up here. Seems to work just as well.
- ninkendo 8y ago
  "Guys" isn't gender neutral though.
  - nitrogen 8y ago
    Its modern usage is largely neutral, especially in "you guys". I hear both women and men refer to groups of either women or men using "you guys" or "hey guys".
  - themacguffinman 8y ago
    I mean...you can just say "you all" which is what "y'all" is supposed to abbreviate.
- gglitch 8y ago
  Maybe, but the second person plural possessive is way easier with the former. Y'all's vs, what, you guys'? When I lived in the midwest I frequently heard "your guys's", which doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
- deleted 8y ago
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- incredible12345 8y ago
  Using the yooper "You's guys" boosts your IQ by about 50 points btw - a proven fact.

cabaalis 8y ago

I never quite understood why "y'all" is singled out as being said by "dumb" people. I've said it my entire life, as well as everyone I know. It's a word. It conveys an idea from the person who says it to the listener to hears it, just like every other utterance since the beginning of time. The only reason I can think of people having a negative opinion of it is some form of audible elitism.

eigenstuff 8y ago
Same! I think it also has a lot to do with people looking down on Southerners and stereotyping us as being uneducated/backwards/ignorant.
- draw_down 8y ago
  Yeah, it sure is a shame when large groups of people in our country are widely prejudged as being inferior to the socially-dominant group. I can’t think of any other examples, though