IME using ClojureScript, you don't really need something like Redux/re-frame all that often either. Once you've handled local state and remote data dependencie

IME using ClojureScript, you don't really need something like Redux/re-frame all that often either. Once you've handled local state and remote data dependencies, you have like 10% of your app state left. That can easily be solved with a global atom (a la re-frame) or something like the new React context API. Our understanding of how to handle state, remote data fetching, etc. has grown a lot over the last few years. Both the React & ClojureScript ecosystem went all-in on global state stores like Redux because, at the time, we thought we needed it. It felt like, if we needed a global state store for one thing, that it made more sense to just put everything in there for cohesiveness. It also was hard to determine up-front what was needed globally (mostly data IME) and what was only needed locally. It turns out that local state and something like apollo/relay/"suspense" for remote data solve the 80-90% case, and now we're getting better tools like React context to handle the last 10%. I don't think that Redux/re-frame is going away, but the number of apps that I would implement with them has gone way down over the years.