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+1 for salary range. It's bizar that some companies require you to first go through the entire interview process and only do the salary negotation at the end. A

+1 for salary range. It's bizar that some companies require you to first go through the entire interview process and only do the salary negotation at the end. At which point you might find out that there never was a possibility for a match and you both have wasted your time.

mindcrime 8y ago
At which point you might find out that there never was a possibility for a match and you both have wasted your time. Exactly. It's ridiculous to do that. What's arguably even worse is when you know that the company knows what your salary expectations are ahead of time, and they still go through the entire process, and then at the end either come up with an offer that's way below your bar, or decline to make an offer because "paying you that much would create a disequity on the team". Yeah, I got that last one once... AFTER going through two rounds of interviews. I'm thinking "if you knew you weren't willing to pay me what I was looking for, why did you waste hours of my time interviewing?!??"
- handbanana 8y ago
  Agreed. These days I'm always sure to communicate very clearly what my salary requirements are, and I haven't had that happen recently.
- oceanghost 8y ago
  I've turned down interviews from Lucas Arts, Dream Works and other companies for this reason. n n
handbanana 8y ago
If you don't know the salary up front and they won't divulge that info, then why bother interviewing? How often would it be a pleasant surprise?
- mindcrime 8y ago
  The times I've been in these situations, it's usually involved a recruiter, and I've had verbal confirmation from the recruiter to the effect of "I gave them your number and they are OK with it". Now it's possible the recruiter misstated things somewhere along the way, so who knows? But that's what made these things all the more surprising when they've come up: the fact that I was told specifically "I gave them your number and it's within their range" or "they're OK with it" or some similar verbiage. Had I been applying direct (no recruiter involved) I probably would not have gone through that much process without demanding more details. Knowing what I know now, I definitely wouldn't.
  - handbanana 8y ago
    You can always try to find the salary range online, too (sometimes). Glassdoor, paysa, + indeed and other sites sometimes try to provide a guestimate range. Take each with a grain of salt of course. I'm very direct with recruiters typically, as I don't like having my time wasted (as it has in the past).
hiyer 8y ago
That's pretty much the norm in India.

mindcrime 8y ago

At which point you might find out that there never was a possibility for a match and you both have wasted your time. Exactly. It's ridiculous to do that. What's arguably even worse is when you know that the company knows what your salary expectations are ahead of time, and they still go through the entire process, and then at the end either come up with an offer that's way below your bar, or decline to make an offer because "paying you that much would create a disequity on the team". Yeah, I got that last one once... AFTER going through two rounds of interviews. I'm thinking "if you knew you weren't willing to pay me what I was looking for, why did you waste hours of my time interviewing?!??"

handbanana 8y ago
Agreed. These days I'm always sure to communicate very clearly what my salary requirements are, and I haven't had that happen recently.
oceanghost 8y ago
I've turned down interviews from Lucas Arts, Dream Works and other companies for this reason. n n

handbanana 8y ago

If you don't know the salary up front and they won't divulge that info, then why bother interviewing? How often would it be a pleasant surprise?

mindcrime 8y ago
The times I've been in these situations, it's usually involved a recruiter, and I've had verbal confirmation from the recruiter to the effect of "I gave them your number and they are OK with it". Now it's possible the recruiter misstated things somewhere along the way, so who knows? But that's what made these things all the more surprising when they've come up: the fact that I was told specifically "I gave them your number and it's within their range" or "they're OK with it" or some similar verbiage. Had I been applying direct (no recruiter involved) I probably would not have gone through that much process without demanding more details. Knowing what I know now, I definitely wouldn't.
- handbanana 8y ago
  You can always try to find the salary range online, too (sometimes). Glassdoor, paysa, + indeed and other sites sometimes try to provide a guestimate range. Take each with a grain of salt of course. I'm very direct with recruiters typically, as I don't like having my time wasted (as it has in the past).

hiyer 8y ago

That's pretty much the norm in India.