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Lisp for the Web

52 points by nreece 19y ago

dangoldin 19y ago
Thanks for the link - that's really cool. I particularly like sites that give you the actual code in downloadable file. Now I have no idea what language to try next, either learn Python and Django or try Lisp. Hmm.
- donw 19y ago
  I'm angling for Lisp, as I'll be working through SICP over the next N months anyway. Even if it turns out that I never develop anything real in it, I think it would be more beneficial to really understand Lisp than it would to be proficient in Python.
  - dangoldin 19y ago
    I think I'm gonna go with the Lisp approach too. I think I'd be able to pick up Python much quicker given my experience. I'm also getting very interested in Genetic Programming so Lisp would be a boon for that.
  - cstejerean 19y ago
    I'm a big fan of lisp but I have to say that a solid understanding of Python has been a lot more beneficial to me than Lisp. While I like the mind expanding concepts of Lisp I find that I use Python for almost everything on a daiky basis. Lisp has been fun to learn but I've rarely used it since so if I had to pick I would learn Python before Lisp.
- aupajo 19y ago
  Give Rails a whirl, you won't regret it.
t0pj 19y ago
Excellent! This will go a long way to relinquishing my n00b status concerning Lisp. "Look out Blub, there's something leaner!" -- LISP (in all-uppers) edited above as not to offend. :)
- gruseom 19y ago
  It does look like a good tutorial. In the meantime, you can take a small (ok, trivial) step by not spelling it "LISP" (a pet peeve of many Lisp hackers).
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hsmyers 19y ago
Remind me--- is there a Mod-Lisp for CL? Or any (Scheme etc.) other? --hsm
- KirinDave 19y ago
  It doesn't matter, because this method is somewhat archaic anyways. You might want to consider how horizontal share-nothing apps tend to work. You can combine share-nothing with continuation-based web servers if you have a smart and fast dispatcher sitting above your cluster of responders. I'm working on fixing that in Fuzed ( http://github.com/KirinDave/fuzed/tree/master http://github.com/KirinDave/fuzed/tree/master ) You might want to quickly whip up a fuzed binding for CL and give it a try, it makes wiring any language to a webapp as simple as responding to a binary protocol. This might seem like a sidestep to the actual problem, but it actually has a lot of nice side effects in terms of your organization of discrete responders.
  - hsmyers 19y ago
    Interesting! I'd investigate further, but my needs have not yet required a framework. Were that so, I'd certainly ride a rail or two... --hsm
- hsmyers 19y ago
  Had I been awake, I would not have asked such a silly question. The answer is "Of course there is!" Google is your friend. There is a semi-generic Mod-Lisp package and at least one wrapper for it cl-modlisp... The rest is left as an exercise for the reader.
  - hsmyers 19y ago
    One for scheme as well--- mod-lisp.scm
meat-eater 19y ago
Very nice tutorial. It's good how he points out the useful libraries for web development with lisp.

52 points by nreece 19y ago

Thanks for the link - that's really cool. I particularly like sites that give you the actual code in downloadable file. Now I have no idea what language to try next, either learn Python and Django or try Lisp. Hmm.

donw 19y ago
I'm angling for Lisp, as I'll be working through SICP over the next N months anyway. Even if it turns out that I never develop anything real in it, I think it would be more beneficial to really understand Lisp than it would to be proficient in Python.
- dangoldin 19y ago
  I think I'm gonna go with the Lisp approach too. I think I'd be able to pick up Python much quicker given my experience. I'm also getting very interested in Genetic Programming so Lisp would be a boon for that.
- cstejerean 19y ago
  I'm a big fan of lisp but I have to say that a solid understanding of Python has been a lot more beneficial to me than Lisp. While I like the mind expanding concepts of Lisp I find that I use Python for almost everything on a daiky basis. Lisp has been fun to learn but I've rarely used it since so if I had to pick I would learn Python before Lisp.
aupajo 19y ago
Give Rails a whirl, you won't regret it.

t0pj 19y ago

Excellent! This will go a long way to relinquishing my n00b status concerning Lisp. "Look out Blub, there's something leaner!" -- LISP (in all-uppers) edited above as not to offend. :)

gruseom 19y ago
It does look like a good tutorial. In the meantime, you can take a small (ok, trivial) step by not spelling it "LISP" (a pet peeve of many Lisp hackers).
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hsmyers 19y ago

Remind me--- is there a Mod-Lisp for CL? Or any (Scheme etc.) other? --hsm

KirinDave 19y ago
It doesn't matter, because this method is somewhat archaic anyways. You might want to consider how horizontal share-nothing apps tend to work. You can combine share-nothing with continuation-based web servers if you have a smart and fast dispatcher sitting above your cluster of responders. I'm working on fixing that in Fuzed ( http://github.com/KirinDave/fuzed/tree/master http://github.com/KirinDave/fuzed/tree/master ) You might want to quickly whip up a fuzed binding for CL and give it a try, it makes wiring any language to a webapp as simple as responding to a binary protocol. This might seem like a sidestep to the actual problem, but it actually has a lot of nice side effects in terms of your organization of discrete responders.
- hsmyers 19y ago
  Interesting! I'd investigate further, but my needs have not yet required a framework. Were that so, I'd certainly ride a rail or two... --hsm
hsmyers 19y ago
Had I been awake, I would not have asked such a silly question. The answer is "Of course there is!" Google is your friend. There is a semi-generic Mod-Lisp package and at least one wrapper for it cl-modlisp... The rest is left as an exercise for the reader.
- hsmyers 19y ago
  One for scheme as well--- mod-lisp.scm

meat-eater 19y ago

Very nice tutorial. It's good how he points out the useful libraries for web development with lisp.