4 ms·

One thing that is interesting is the whole hipster "lumbersexual" fad has made knowledge of "rural" things pretty cool in those circles. Don't fall for the tra

One thing that is interesting is the whole hipster "lumbersexual" fad has made knowledge of "rural" things pretty cool in those circles. Don't fall for the trap to think this means you can admit you were poor once too. That negative attitude will still turn towards you. You will be judged and it will be remembered. You'll get a little bit of "Other" on you and everything will get a little harder. Just consider yourself lucky that unlike most race and gender concerns you can pass very easily, so do it. I'm impressed you are committed to being open about it, but I hope during that talk you tell them to start passing and help them learn how to if they need it.

haskellandchill 8y ago
If you admit living paycheck to paycheck to certain people you will be shunned and eventually pushed out. I've seen it happen so many times.
- busterarm 8y ago
  Very true... And it's funny, because I generally find that the truly wealthy, silver-spoon/old-money type of people do not do this and they generally don't care about it if they like you... ...it's the ones in the middle.
busterarm 8y ago
> I'm impressed you are committed to being open about it, but I hope during that talk you tell them to start passing and help them learn how to if they need it. It comes with a social cost, but I'm enough of a "personality" that who I am is going to come out regardless. There's no point in being anything but honest, but it (being too different) has cost me my job two times. If you're at a good place around good people it's not a big deal. As for the whole "lumbersexual" thing, it's sort of like putting on blackface, as far as I'm concerned.
- freshhawk 8y ago
  I'm conflicted about the appropriation aspect of it. This whole rural aesthetic fashion is obviously coming from modern young men being confused about how to be masculine now as well as a generic naivete about rural life and nature in general that make them see their escape from stressful office bullshit through rose colored glasses. Mostly though, part of it is just a return to valuing the different types of skills necessary in that setting. This is great, and it is great for their perception of rural people in general, because they are bad at something that people who they look down on find easy - and it changes their mind. It is a mixed bag, and seems like an overall good to me.

haskellandchill 8y ago

If you admit living paycheck to paycheck to certain people you will be shunned and eventually pushed out. I've seen it happen so many times.

busterarm 8y ago
Very true... And it's funny, because I generally find that the truly wealthy, silver-spoon/old-money type of people do not do this and they generally don't care about it if they like you... ...it's the ones in the middle.

busterarm 8y ago

> I'm impressed you are committed to being open about it, but I hope during that talk you tell them to start passing and help them learn how to if they need it. It comes with a social cost, but I'm enough of a "personality" that who I am is going to come out regardless. There's no point in being anything but honest, but it (being too different) has cost me my job two times. If you're at a good place around good people it's not a big deal. As for the whole "lumbersexual" thing, it's sort of like putting on blackface, as far as I'm concerned.

freshhawk 8y ago
I'm conflicted about the appropriation aspect of it. This whole rural aesthetic fashion is obviously coming from modern young men being confused about how to be masculine now as well as a generic naivete about rural life and nature in general that make them see their escape from stressful office bullshit through rose colored glasses. Mostly though, part of it is just a return to valuing the different types of skills necessary in that setting. This is great, and it is great for their perception of rural people in general, because they are bad at something that people who they look down on find easy - and it changes their mind. It is a mixed bag, and seems like an overall good to me.