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2: can you source that please? Only time I ever heard of that was when people thought the bit about a movie coming out was an ad. They said it wasn't a paid thi

2: can you source that please? Only time I ever heard of that was when people thought the bit about a movie coming out was an ad. They said it wasn't a paid thing and was given to people that they thought would enjoy the movie. Personally that's what I want to hear when I ask my home about my day. A reminder that a movie I am interested in is coming out today? Thanks for the reminder! https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/3/16/14948696/google-home-assistant-advertising-beauty-and-the-beast https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/3/16/14948696/g... 3: if your referring to the mini that a journalist got and found to be constantly recording small snippets of audio, I thought Google handled that really well. They had someone at his house to collect it the same day I think, and within days disabled the feature across the board even though only a small number of devices had the flaw. https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/10/google-nerfing-home-minis-mine-spied-everything-said-247/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/10/google-nerfing-home...

millstone 8y ago
1. Yes, I meant the Beauty and the Beast ad. They describe how "it invites our partners to be our guest and shares their tales." That's their actual explanation: this product is how Google invites THEIR guests into YOUR home. If that's honestly what you want, by all means. But not in my house. 2. Right, Home was found to be recording thousands of times a day. Google quickly shipped a software update to disable it: that's the right damage control, and they deserve credit for that response. But the point is that Google will happily "spy on everything I said" and not notice. Why should a random reporter have to dig through Google codenames to discover this spying? Shouldn't Google have safeguards in place? And see their pathetic response [1] that doesn't acknowledge the true problem at all. Google could own these mistakes. But instead they deny their ads are ads, and characterize constant eavesdropping as "touch controls behaving incorrectly." They haven't learned a thing, and until they do, this stuff is going to happen again and again with their products. [1] https://support.google.com/googlehome/answer/7550221 https://support.google.com/googlehome/answer/7550221
- ehsankia 8y ago
  I'm sorry but you're either being intentionally obtuse or trying to twist and mislead people by spreading stories out of context and lacking crucial information. 1. In over two years the Home existing, that happened a SINGLE time, no money changed hands and once they realize it people didn't enjoy the experience, it never happened again. Reading your original comment > Google injecting ads into the "My Day" information you make it sounds like this is something they do regularly all the time. It literally happened once a year ago and they apologized for it. 2. This was a hardware defect on a very very small number of units on a single type of smart speaker. The defect triggered the button at the top, which makes the speaker lights up, listen and tries to respond, so the user would clearly see it misbehaving. All recordings also show up on your activity page. Again here, your original comment: > Google Home was found to be listening all the time You make it sound like his happened on all devices, was doing it intentionally and was doing it in an undisclosed secret way, when in fact it was a bug which realistically affected less than 0.00001% of the people and was fixed within a few hours once reported. You can bend the truth and assume whatever crazy tinfoil theory you want, but that doesn't make it reality.
  - CaptainZapp 8y ago
    The problem with all those tech companies about their "mistakes" is that they lost the benefit of the doubt long ago. Remember when Google scooped up unsecured WiFi data via their creepy street view vehicles? Yeah, that was a mistake by some mid-level manager and not intentional. Don't even get me started on Facebook's "mistakes".
    - ocdtrekkie 8y ago
      It's only a mistake if they get caught.
      - intrasight 8y ago
        Exactly!
    - 8y ago

millstone 8y ago

1. Yes, I meant the Beauty and the Beast ad. They describe how "it invites our partners to be our guest and shares their tales." That's their actual explanation: this product is how Google invites THEIR guests into YOUR home. If that's honestly what you want, by all means. But not in my house. 2. Right, Home was found to be recording thousands of times a day. Google quickly shipped a software update to disable it: that's the right damage control, and they deserve credit for that response. But the point is that Google will happily "spy on everything I said" and not notice. Why should a random reporter have to dig through Google codenames to discover this spying? Shouldn't Google have safeguards in place? And see their pathetic response [1] that doesn't acknowledge the true problem at all. Google could own these mistakes. But instead they deny their ads are ads, and characterize constant eavesdropping as "touch controls behaving incorrectly." They haven't learned a thing, and until they do, this stuff is going to happen again and again with their products. [1] https://support.google.com/googlehome/answer/7550221 https://support.google.com/googlehome/answer/7550221

ehsankia 8y ago
I'm sorry but you're either being intentionally obtuse or trying to twist and mislead people by spreading stories out of context and lacking crucial information. 1. In over two years the Home existing, that happened a SINGLE time, no money changed hands and once they realize it people didn't enjoy the experience, it never happened again. Reading your original comment > Google injecting ads into the "My Day" information you make it sounds like this is something they do regularly all the time. It literally happened once a year ago and they apologized for it. 2. This was a hardware defect on a very very small number of units on a single type of smart speaker. The defect triggered the button at the top, which makes the speaker lights up, listen and tries to respond, so the user would clearly see it misbehaving. All recordings also show up on your activity page. Again here, your original comment: > Google Home was found to be listening all the time You make it sound like his happened on all devices, was doing it intentionally and was doing it in an undisclosed secret way, when in fact it was a bug which realistically affected less than 0.00001% of the people and was fixed within a few hours once reported. You can bend the truth and assume whatever crazy tinfoil theory you want, but that doesn't make it reality.
- CaptainZapp 8y ago
  The problem with all those tech companies about their "mistakes" is that they lost the benefit of the doubt long ago. Remember when Google scooped up unsecured WiFi data via their creepy street view vehicles? Yeah, that was a mistake by some mid-level manager and not intentional. Don't even get me started on Facebook's "mistakes".
  - ocdtrekkie 8y ago
    It's only a mistake if they get caught.
    - intrasight 8y ago
      Exactly!
  - 8y ago