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Google Assistant is more capable than Siri. Apple has lost a lot of ground.

by guidedlight 8y ago

icanhackit 8y ago
True for now, but WWDC in June might tell a different story.
- cozzyd 8y ago
  Yeah, they can enlist VW's help in story telling.
- pier25 8y ago
  I siriously doubt it.
  - icanhackit 8y ago
    I was responding to the "Apple has lost a lot of ground" part, I'm not suggesting Apple will overtake Google with their assistant. I should have quoted the original text.
    - pier25 8y ago
      Oh, right. Thanks for making that clear.
threeseed 8y ago
And until Apple abandons their position on privacy as well as builds their own search engine/advertising platform they will forever struggle with Google. For better or worse that's the road Apple chose.
- bobsil1 8y ago
  More likely Google/FB's surveillance model gets incrementally banned.
  - fiblye 8y ago
    It might end up superficially banned in the EU or something, but their data collection is just too valuable to America, China, and Europe's governments to actually forbid.
- taurath 8y ago
  And that’s why I’m on their platform despite the drawbacks.
  - jacksmith21006 8y ago
    Sounds like you might want to actually read the Apple privacy agreement. Here is a copy for you. https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ Think you might be surprised of what data Apple is able to collect. The one that most bothers me is quoted here. "When you share your content with family and friends using Apple products, send gift certificates and products, or invite others to participate in Apple services or forums, Apple may collect the information you provide about those people such as name, mailing address, email address, and phone number. " Apple is great at marketing but was hoping we could have a discussion on reality.
- jacksmith21006 8y ago
  That is NOT true. Here in the US is the Apple privacy agreement. https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ Apple has access to all the same data. Plus Apple even takes the right to collect data on people you interact with. I quote "When you share your content with family and friends using Apple products, send gift certificates and products, or invite others to participate in Apple services or forums, Apple may collect the information you provide about those people such as name, mailing address, email address, and phone number. Apple will use such information to fulfill your requests, provide the relevant product or service, or for anti-fraud purposes." Wish we could end this narrative that is just not true. Heck Apple told the TV networks they would share your viewing data on the Apple TV. "Apple TV service will share viewing data with networks, report claims" http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/apple-tv-service-will-share-viewing-data-with-networks-report-claims-2933925 http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/apple-tv-service-will-sha... Google will target ads in some cases but they are not giving your data away to a third party. Plus Apple handing over all their users data in China has to be the biggest privacy betrayal example with any big tech company in the US. Have we ever had anything else like it? "Campaign targets Apple over privacy betrayal for Chinese iCloud users" https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy-betrayal-for-chinese-icloud-users/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy... Ironically China gov was hacking Gmail accounts and Google instead chose to leave China. I get marketing but hope on HN we can use reality instead of marketing narratives.

Google Assistant is more capable than Siri. Apple has lost a lot of ground.

icanhackit 8y ago

True for now, but WWDC in June might tell a different story.

cozzyd 8y ago
Yeah, they can enlist VW's help in story telling.
pier25 8y ago
I siriously doubt it.
- icanhackit 8y ago
  I was responding to the "Apple has lost a lot of ground" part, I'm not suggesting Apple will overtake Google with their assistant. I should have quoted the original text.
  - pier25 8y ago
    Oh, right. Thanks for making that clear.

threeseed 8y ago

And until Apple abandons their position on privacy as well as builds their own search engine/advertising platform they will forever struggle with Google. For better or worse that's the road Apple chose.

bobsil1 8y ago
More likely Google/FB's surveillance model gets incrementally banned.
- fiblye 8y ago
  It might end up superficially banned in the EU or something, but their data collection is just too valuable to America, China, and Europe's governments to actually forbid.
taurath 8y ago
And that’s why I’m on their platform despite the drawbacks.
- jacksmith21006 8y ago
  Sounds like you might want to actually read the Apple privacy agreement. Here is a copy for you. https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ Think you might be surprised of what data Apple is able to collect. The one that most bothers me is quoted here. "When you share your content with family and friends using Apple products, send gift certificates and products, or invite others to participate in Apple services or forums, Apple may collect the information you provide about those people such as name, mailing address, email address, and phone number. " Apple is great at marketing but was hoping we could have a discussion on reality.
jacksmith21006 8y ago
That is NOT true. Here in the US is the Apple privacy agreement. https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ Apple has access to all the same data. Plus Apple even takes the right to collect data on people you interact with. I quote "When you share your content with family and friends using Apple products, send gift certificates and products, or invite others to participate in Apple services or forums, Apple may collect the information you provide about those people such as name, mailing address, email address, and phone number. Apple will use such information to fulfill your requests, provide the relevant product or service, or for anti-fraud purposes." Wish we could end this narrative that is just not true. Heck Apple told the TV networks they would share your viewing data on the Apple TV. "Apple TV service will share viewing data with networks, report claims" http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/apple-tv-service-will-share-viewing-data-with-networks-report-claims-2933925 http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/apple-tv-service-will-sha... Google will target ads in some cases but they are not giving your data away to a third party. Plus Apple handing over all their users data in China has to be the biggest privacy betrayal example with any big tech company in the US. Have we ever had anything else like it? "Campaign targets Apple over privacy betrayal for Chinese iCloud users" https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy-betrayal-for-chinese-icloud-users/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy... Ironically China gov was hacking Gmail accounts and Google instead chose to leave China. I get marketing but hope on HN we can use reality instead of marketing narratives.