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I wish Apple the best, but the truth is that AI powered software made by Apple just isn't good. But I still prefer Apples stance to data privacy a lot more than
by dvcrn 8y ago
I wish Apple the best, but the truth is that AI powered software made by Apple just isn't good. But I still prefer Apples stance to data privacy a lot more than what Google does, even if it means it's a bit behind.
But at this point, I think the only ways to catch up is to gobble up a few AI powered startups with their cash.
- jfoster 8y agoI don't think it's fair to compare this with other Apple projects. It's quite likely that they've hired specifically for this.
- IkmoIkmo 8y agoI don't know, that feels a bit like saying a decade ago that Google built a search engine, what in the world do they know about building a mobile operating system? If this fails, I don't think 'Apple has little experience with building AI-driven software' will be a prominent reason. It would in a simulated world where Apple was not allowed hire any expertise, acquire any companies or technology and spend none of its cash, but could only divert the engineers who worked on Siri to this project. Sure. But that just isn't the case.
- hammock 8y ago> what in the world do they know about building a mobile operating system? They don't. Android was an acquisition and so was Waymo.
- mda 8y agoYou think android and waymo is built by the people who came with acqusitions?
- hammock 8y agoYes of course. The parts of Android and Waymo that matter most were already built, or are being built, by folks from the acquired company.
- joshuamorton 8y agoGiven that at acquisition, the android team was <30 people, and it had to be mostly rewritten before it was originally launched, and has been significantly changed since then, I think this is blatantly false ;)
- mbreese 8y agoAt the time... yes. That's the point of an acquisition - to buy talent/skills/tech when you don't have that talent in-house (or to augment existing talent). Now, many years later and with normal amounts of turn over? That's a different question all together.
- IkmoIkmo 8y agoI think you missed my point...
- bitmapbrother 8y ago>They don't. Android was an acquisition and so was Waymo. What they bought likely doesn't even exist anymore in the current code base. Additionally, the origin of iOS is based on Apple's acquisition of NeXT.
- hammock 8y agoAnd no one loves Apple because of iOS...
- nkristoffersen 8y agoMy understanding of the story is Android was nearly completely re-written after the iPhone announcement. The first Android phone was very different from what Google purchased.
- blattimwind 8y agoAndroid is not a good operating system, either. They still haven't figured out updates FFS.
- konraditurbe 8y agoWell, android is open source so manufacturers can add their stuff and manufacturers decide when to update their devices (if at all). Google is being more strict on updates, as well as adding Project Treble which makes updating a device a breeze.
- brandonsometig 8y agoThat's like saying Linux hasn't figured out updates yet. It's a false argument.
- patrickaljord 8y agoWaymo was not an acquisition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waymo#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waymo#History
- slyfocks 8y agoThey’ve hired specifically for this project, and based on the friends I know working on self-driving at Apple vs. Siri at Apple, the self-driving team has a much greater concentration of talent.
- abritinthebay 8y agoIsn’t good? That’s rather hyperbolic of you. Is good enough for the cast majority of users but not as slick and quite as feature rich as the competitors? Sure. But the privacy angle means it’s the only game in town as far as I’m concerned
- lern_too_spel 8y agoThe privacy angle is just a marketing ruse for chumps. When your product is worse than all others to the point of being nearly useless, you play up privacy even if you're collecting the same information (as with iCloud apps) and simply not processing it correctly, pretending that processing the data is anti-privacy.
- millstone 8y agoAsk the people whose Alexa and Google searches was used as evidence against them in court whether privacy is just a "marketing ruse for chumps."
- lern_too_spel 8y agoThe correct way to handle this is to leave the option of retaining history up to the user. Most users want to look up what they have asked before. https://www.google.com/amp/bgr.com/2016/06/01/google-home-incognito-mode-privacy-vs-amazon-echo/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/bgr.com/2016/06/01/google-home-in... Apple keeps that history tied to a unique user identifier for six months but doesn't let the user see it.
- pier25 8y ago> it's a bit behind A bit? The gap is large and only getting larger by the year. Google has been working on understanding humans for 20 years and building global scale services. It's no coincidence that it is moving much faster than Apple in this space.
- rsynnott 8y agoThe "shove it all in the cloud, and collect all the data on the user forever" approach to "AI" isn't really relevant to cars, anyway, though.
- patrickaljord 8y agoIt is actually, Google's test cars have driven millions of miles around in traffic, the data they got from this is being analyzed using the same techniques they use on users data (neural networks and deep learning etc).
- sangnoir 8y ago> Google's test cars have driven millions of miles around in traffic, Waymo's software also drives plenty of virtual miles in the very same "cloud" using collected data - aspects that gp disparages as irrelevant.
- TheForumTroll 8y agoHave you compared their privacy policies? Apple isn't better than Google at all. Look at other comments that breaks it down.