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Yep, this is right. You can technically use the service without giving consent, so it meets the guidelines. However, the Verge will make that consent box as ann

Yep, this is right. You can technically use the service without giving consent, so it meets the guidelines. However, the Verge will make that consent box as annoying as possible to encourage you into accepting. Oh, you don't want half of your screen blocked? Well, just click this simple button and sign away your soul. All the big companies are doing something similar. If you want to be an honest publisher and follow the laws, you can have a clearly written consent box that lets users accept or decline. However, you'll see 95% of people decline, and take a big hit on your revenue while your competitors prosper. What are we really accomplishing? We're just going to have popups on every site, that do their best into tricking users into accepting. Do you want to see other examples of consent management solutions that will be appearing soon? https://www.quantcast.com/gdpr/consent-management-solution/ https://www.quantcast.com/gdpr/consent-management-solution/ If you want to opt-out, you need to use the tiny "show purposes" button. http://acdn.origin.appnexus.net/cmp/docs/#/basic/show http://acdn.origin.appnexus.net/cmp/docs/#/basic/show Click "execute" for the example. Want to opt-out? Click the "learn more" button, and then you'll need to disable about 1,000 options. They might as well just make personalized advertising illegal. It's pretty clear 95%+ of people don't want to be tracked this way. However, these consent management solutions are saying 70-80% of people are accepting. This is happening because people are being tricked or forced into agreeing. Why are we rewarding businesses that choose to use this kind of behavior and punishing honest ones? Why are we turning internet browsing into an annoying experience filled with popups that are a minefield to navigate?

simonbarker87 8y ago
> Why are we turning internet browsing into an annoying experience filled with popups that are a minefield to navigate? Honestly, because it works if you are targeting a specific niche. The problem with large, generic platforms such as Google and Facebook is that there is no typical demographic, so without knowing who people are it is difficult to point advertising at the most suitable demographic. In the old print days you knew the reader of a car magazine was into cars and the reader of a caravaning magazine was most likely a middle aged couple who were fairly well off and receptive to more expensive lifestyle upgrade goods. If we could find a way to segment like this without tracking that would be great but while everyone uses these large, monolithic, caters for all platforms, it’s really hard, without tracking, to know who you are advertising to. I find retargetting creepy and annoying but I like targeted, informative ads that are relevant to my interests. There is a balance to be found here that walks the line between useful and effective and creepy and annoying. Oh and the cynic in me thinks that the 7 years of ineffective cookie law pop ups was just training people to accept them for GDPR now that they mean a bit more.
PeterisP 8y ago
Are you seeing the same what I'm seeing? If I go to the quantcast link and press 'show purposes', everything is deselected by default as it should be, and if I click 'Save' there then I proceed without having opted in to anything. Sure, the "show purposes" button to refuse is misleading and should be changed, but the 1000 options screen is fine, at least for me.
- Guest9812398 8y ago
  Everything is deselected IF you click the "show purposes" button. If you visit the page and click what appears to be the only option, "I agree", then you're opted-in for everything. Why doesn't the page have two equal size buttons, "I agree" and "I disagree"? We all know why. It's about intentionally misleading users into agreeing. This isn't fine, and it defeats the entire purpose of these regulations.
flukus 8y ago
> However, the Verge will make that consent box as annoying as possible to encourage you into accepting. Oh, you don't want half of your screen blocked? Well, just click this simple button and sign away your soul. To be compliant they would have to leave that half a screen blocked with a simple button to opt out again.

simonbarker87 8y ago

> Why are we turning internet browsing into an annoying experience filled with popups that are a minefield to navigate? Honestly, because it works if you are targeting a specific niche. The problem with large, generic platforms such as Google and Facebook is that there is no typical demographic, so without knowing who people are it is difficult to point advertising at the most suitable demographic. In the old print days you knew the reader of a car magazine was into cars and the reader of a caravaning magazine was most likely a middle aged couple who were fairly well off and receptive to more expensive lifestyle upgrade goods. If we could find a way to segment like this without tracking that would be great but while everyone uses these large, monolithic, caters for all platforms, it’s really hard, without tracking, to know who you are advertising to. I find retargetting creepy and annoying but I like targeted, informative ads that are relevant to my interests. There is a balance to be found here that walks the line between useful and effective and creepy and annoying. Oh and the cynic in me thinks that the 7 years of ineffective cookie law pop ups was just training people to accept them for GDPR now that they mean a bit more.

PeterisP 8y ago

Are you seeing the same what I'm seeing? If I go to the quantcast link and press 'show purposes', everything is deselected by default as it should be, and if I click 'Save' there then I proceed without having opted in to anything. Sure, the "show purposes" button to refuse is misleading and should be changed, but the 1000 options screen is fine, at least for me.

Guest9812398 8y ago
Everything is deselected IF you click the "show purposes" button. If you visit the page and click what appears to be the only option, "I agree", then you're opted-in for everything. Why doesn't the page have two equal size buttons, "I agree" and "I disagree"? We all know why. It's about intentionally misleading users into agreeing. This isn't fine, and it defeats the entire purpose of these regulations.

flukus 8y ago

> However, the Verge will make that consent box as annoying as possible to encourage you into accepting. Oh, you don't want half of your screen blocked? Well, just click this simple button and sign away your soul. To be compliant they would have to leave that half a screen blocked with a simple button to opt out again.