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To counter that argument: with age comes experience. People who are 65 have witnessed a huge amount more history than people who are 35. They have seen the cycl

To counter that argument: with age comes experience. People who are 65 have witnessed a huge amount more history than people who are 35. They have seen the cycles of the World turn more times, they have more understanding of human nature and how people respond in irrational ways to policy. (However, I do agree with you that there should still be a maximum age, how you would introduce it - especially to a political system where it would cause almost every elected official to lose out - is beyond me)

rubicon33 8y ago
It's almost as if - gasp - we need a balance of power! Perhaps a system in which a "House of Future", and "House of Past", compete for resources (votes) would help promote a government that was conscious of making investments that support not JUST the aging generation (house of past).
- fredley 8y ago
  This is overcomplicating the underlying truth: in the US and other places we have representatives that are not representative.
aphextron 8y ago
>To counter that argument: with age comes experience. People who are 65 have witnessed a huge amount more history than people who are 35. They have seen the cycles of the World turn more times, they have more understanding of human nature and how people respond in irrational ways to policy. To counter this, these people's life experience is entirely of the 20th century. A world of linear growth and clearly defined national boundaries where information can be controlled. I think because of this that anyone's "experience" is now not only completely irrelevant, but a liability. We live in a whole new world which absolutely no one understands yet, and the only traits which should be desired in a leader are adaptability and the ability to innovate. Something which old people necessarily lack by definition.
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- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > To counter this, these people's life experience is entirely of the 20th century. A world of linear growth Er, no. An earlier spot on the same exponential curve, but there hasn't been a “world of linear growth” in the West since the Industrial Revolution. Maybe, more properly, the preceding Second Agricultural Revolution. > and clearly defined national boundaries where information can be controlled. Not really; the breakdown of that feature was recognized and commented on widely throughout the 20th Century, notably in the context of: (1) the rise of international revolutionary communism, (2) the rise and increasing dominance of multinational corporations, (3) the rise of international Islamism
- fredley 8y ago
  To counter this: that's exactly what someone with relatively little experience would say!
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- maxxxxx 8y ago
  "Something which old people necessarily lack by definition." Where does that definition come from?
- musage 8y ago
  It's not that people like Erich Fromm, Hannah Arendt, Noam Chomsky, Joseph Weizenbaum, Stephen Hawking are outdated -- their inconvenient questions and points remain unanswered. They're so correct that by now it's really just shooting a bunch of confused, arrogant fish in a barrel who call that progress. Free fall feels really great and liberating until it doesn't.
- danso 8y ago
  > We live in a whole new world which absolutely no one understands yet, and the only traits which should be desired in a leader are adaptability and the ability to innovate. Something which old people necessarily lack by definition. I'm interested in where you've found the definition of "old people" to necessarily mean a lack of adaptability and innovation.

rubicon33 8y ago

It's almost as if - gasp - we need a balance of power! Perhaps a system in which a "House of Future", and "House of Past", compete for resources (votes) would help promote a government that was conscious of making investments that support not JUST the aging generation (house of past).

fredley 8y ago
This is overcomplicating the underlying truth: in the US and other places we have representatives that are not representative.

aphextron 8y ago

>To counter that argument: with age comes experience. People who are 65 have witnessed a huge amount more history than people who are 35. They have seen the cycles of the World turn more times, they have more understanding of human nature and how people respond in irrational ways to policy. To counter this, these people's life experience is entirely of the 20th century. A world of linear growth and clearly defined national boundaries where information can be controlled. I think because of this that anyone's "experience" is now not only completely irrelevant, but a liability. We live in a whole new world which absolutely no one understands yet, and the only traits which should be desired in a leader are adaptability and the ability to innovate. Something which old people necessarily lack by definition.

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dragonwriter 8y ago
> To counter this, these people's life experience is entirely of the 20th century. A world of linear growth Er, no. An earlier spot on the same exponential curve, but there hasn't been a “world of linear growth” in the West since the Industrial Revolution. Maybe, more properly, the preceding Second Agricultural Revolution. > and clearly defined national boundaries where information can be controlled. Not really; the breakdown of that feature was recognized and commented on widely throughout the 20th Century, notably in the context of: (1) the rise of international revolutionary communism, (2) the rise and increasing dominance of multinational corporations, (3) the rise of international Islamism
fredley 8y ago
To counter this: that's exactly what someone with relatively little experience would say!
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maxxxxx 8y ago
"Something which old people necessarily lack by definition." Where does that definition come from?
musage 8y ago
It's not that people like Erich Fromm, Hannah Arendt, Noam Chomsky, Joseph Weizenbaum, Stephen Hawking are outdated -- their inconvenient questions and points remain unanswered. They're so correct that by now it's really just shooting a bunch of confused, arrogant fish in a barrel who call that progress. Free fall feels really great and liberating until it doesn't.
danso 8y ago
> We live in a whole new world which absolutely no one understands yet, and the only traits which should be desired in a leader are adaptability and the ability to innovate. Something which old people necessarily lack by definition. I'm interested in where you've found the definition of "old people" to necessarily mean a lack of adaptability and innovation.