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I disagree completely. EU seems to be the only large entity that cares about citizens, and GDPR is likely to bring a lot of sanity to the field. It seems that t

I disagree completely. EU seems to be the only large entity that cares about citizens, and GDPR is likely to bring a lot of sanity to the field. It seems that the positive effects are often extended also to people that aren't strictly in the target group. I'm saying this as an employee in a company that has been doing changes to ensure compliance. Some extra work, sure, but all the changes I've seen from inside have been for the better.

dominotw 8y ago
hey are you storing customerID -> zipcode mapping anywhere by any chance. Do you purge that mapping on 'forget' ?
- heavenlyblue 8y ago
  It would literally take me a single Ctrl+F though the codebase to see every line of code that uses CustomerID. Does it not for you? Ah right, you're making a point about how slow the progress will be if we do not allow the small business owners to build their half-baked solutions. I am pretty sure Romans once had the same issue with the bridge builders.
  - drstewart 8y ago
    >It would literally take me a single Ctrl+F though the codebase to see every line of code that uses CustomerID. Most real world applications aren't that simple unfortunately. You can Ctrl+F all you want, but that won't show you the logging that automatically logs parameters from requests that include customerID or the reports based on DB replications or ETL.
    - heavenlyblue 8y ago
      Well, then remove all of the other data associated with the customer. CustomerID then is then going to be irrelevant anyway. But frankly, all of your points are equally invalid. Replications are a copy. Replace values in replications with faux values if that's required. ETL? Absolutely the same. Logs? sed s/UserID/FauxUserID. You're operating a semi-garage business if it's so hard to comply with GDPR. Data does not belong to you anymore, and you've had a few years to make sure you complied.
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    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      That's only because the people building them haven't cared about it. Now, hopefully, people will care about it.
  - dominotw 8y ago
    ok? Not sure what you are trying to say with ctrl+F. Don't care for your dumbass comment about some small business thing.
kodablah 8y ago
> EU seems to be the only large entity that cares about citizens Business owners are citizens too, and they hire citizens.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  So? Their desires do not trump the rights of everyone else.
  - kodablah 8y ago
    Nobody said they did. I am unsure how that relates to my comment. I was responding to GP who I believe was wrong and gave an example of the types of citizens that not only do they seem not to care about, but appear to actively punish.

dominotw 8y ago

hey are you storing customerID -> zipcode mapping anywhere by any chance. Do you purge that mapping on 'forget' ?

heavenlyblue 8y ago
It would literally take me a single Ctrl+F though the codebase to see every line of code that uses CustomerID. Does it not for you? Ah right, you're making a point about how slow the progress will be if we do not allow the small business owners to build their half-baked solutions. I am pretty sure Romans once had the same issue with the bridge builders.
- drstewart 8y ago
  >It would literally take me a single Ctrl+F though the codebase to see every line of code that uses CustomerID. Most real world applications aren't that simple unfortunately. You can Ctrl+F all you want, but that won't show you the logging that automatically logs parameters from requests that include customerID or the reports based on DB replications or ETL.
  - heavenlyblue 8y ago
    Well, then remove all of the other data associated with the customer. CustomerID then is then going to be irrelevant anyway. But frankly, all of your points are equally invalid. Replications are a copy. Replace values in replications with faux values if that's required. ETL? Absolutely the same. Logs? sed s/UserID/FauxUserID. You're operating a semi-garage business if it's so hard to comply with GDPR. Data does not belong to you anymore, and you've had a few years to make sure you complied.
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  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    That's only because the people building them haven't cared about it. Now, hopefully, people will care about it.
- dominotw 8y ago
  ok? Not sure what you are trying to say with ctrl+F. Don't care for your dumbass comment about some small business thing.

kodablah 8y ago

> EU seems to be the only large entity that cares about citizens Business owners are citizens too, and they hire citizens.

s73v3r_ 8y ago
So? Their desires do not trump the rights of everyone else.
- kodablah 8y ago
  Nobody said they did. I am unsure how that relates to my comment. I was responding to GP who I believe was wrong and gave an example of the types of citizens that not only do they seem not to care about, but appear to actively punish.