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The only common ground to those cases are americans in US consulates. So logical conclusion is it is case of self-shooting in the foot - Us spy equipment malfun

The only common ground to those cases are americans in US consulates. So logical conclusion is it is case of self-shooting in the foot - Us spy equipment malfunctioning etc

burger_moon 8y ago
Wouldn't they (US gov't) want to keep this out of the media then? Does it make sense to have it run around the media if it was from malfunctioning equipment. This is under the assumption they would realize it's their equipment before publicizing the event.
- armitron 8y ago
  It's hard to keep something like this out of the media and trying to do so could backfire and create an even bigger mess. Going public is really the only response that makes strategic sense, irrespective of the causal factor.
Chaebixi 8y ago
> So logical conclusion is it is case of self-shooting in the foot - Us spy equipment malfunctioning etc A logical conclusion, not the logical conclusion. I think this comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17135012 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17135012) does a better job of starting to enumerate the possible causes.
danielvf 8y ago
The Cuba “attacks” took place at houses and hotel rooms, not actually in or around government buildings.
cgh 8y ago
No, Canadians were also affected. https://globalnews.ca/news/3956401/eight-canadians-sickened-in-mysterious-cuba-attacks-rcmp-leading-investigation/ https://globalnews.ca/news/3956401/eight-canadians-sickened-...
- natch 8y ago
  That doesn't say much, because it's not beyond the realm of possibility that the US shares some equipment (made up example: ultrasonic or other anti-jamming technology) or other technology with Canada. If it was a country way less friendly to the US than Canada (or even less friendly, if you want to make the questionable argument that Canada is not friendly to the US), that would be a better indicator.
  - cgh 8y ago
    I was objecting to the phrase "only americans in US consulates", when clearly it's not. Kind of pedantic, I know. That said, asserting that it's not "beyond the realm of possibility" that this phenomena might affect US allies because of shared equipment is pure conjecture. Many things about this are not beyond the realm of possibility.
- Iwan-Zotow 8y ago
  5 eyes inter-agency cooperation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement

The only common ground to those cases are americans in US consulates. So logical conclusion is it is case of self-shooting in the foot - Us spy equipment malfunctioning etc

burger_moon 8y ago

Wouldn't they (US gov't) want to keep this out of the media then? Does it make sense to have it run around the media if it was from malfunctioning equipment. This is under the assumption they would realize it's their equipment before publicizing the event.

armitron 8y ago
It's hard to keep something like this out of the media and trying to do so could backfire and create an even bigger mess. Going public is really the only response that makes strategic sense, irrespective of the causal factor.

Chaebixi 8y ago

> So logical conclusion is it is case of self-shooting in the foot - Us spy equipment malfunctioning etc A logical conclusion, not the logical conclusion. I think this comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17135012 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17135012) does a better job of starting to enumerate the possible causes.

danielvf 8y ago

The Cuba “attacks” took place at houses and hotel rooms, not actually in or around government buildings.

cgh 8y ago

No, Canadians were also affected. https://globalnews.ca/news/3956401/eight-canadians-sickened-in-mysterious-cuba-attacks-rcmp-leading-investigation/ https://globalnews.ca/news/3956401/eight-canadians-sickened-...

natch 8y ago
That doesn't say much, because it's not beyond the realm of possibility that the US shares some equipment (made up example: ultrasonic or other anti-jamming technology) or other technology with Canada. If it was a country way less friendly to the US than Canada (or even less friendly, if you want to make the questionable argument that Canada is not friendly to the US), that would be a better indicator.
- cgh 8y ago
  I was objecting to the phrase "only americans in US consulates", when clearly it's not. Kind of pedantic, I know. That said, asserting that it's not "beyond the realm of possibility" that this phenomena might affect US allies because of shared equipment is pure conjecture. Many things about this are not beyond the realm of possibility.
Iwan-Zotow 8y ago
5 eyes inter-agency cooperation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement