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I'm not sure comparing a second headquarters and a tech support site is apt. I'm not sure how loud the search is matters. WSJ is a joke. Look, I can twist word
by kodablah 8y ago
I'm not sure comparing a second headquarters and a tech support site is apt. I'm not sure how loud the search is matters.
WSJ is a joke. Look, I can twist words too: "While Amazon is clearer and open about employee counts and candidate locations for HQ2, Apple remains secret and opaque about any details even for small site". Abatements abound regardless, lets not treat the differences in culture between Amazon and Apple, which translate to their way of searching for places to do business, as if one is clearly superior. (I personally don't mind what Amazon is doing in the least)
- projectramo 8y agoGood point. Secrecy and tax deals are two different issues. One's opinion on one should not be conflated with the other.
- bogomipz 8y agoExcept that secrecy is increasing being being used to hide the details of those tax deals. See: http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/19/technology/business/amazon-headquarters/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/19/technology/business/amazon-h... and https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/pennsylvania-asks-court-to-keep-amazon-incentives-a-secret/ https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/pennsylvania-asks-...
- imgabe 8y agoNot to mention, didn't Apple just build a billion dollar new headquarters building that was the subject of countless fawning articles?
- mandeepj 8y agoThey are looking to build one more.
- getpost 8y ago5 billion. I wish I understood how projects involving that much money are actually managed. https://www.fastcodesign.com/3029477/norman-foster-on-designing-apples-5-billion-spaceship-campus https://www.fastcodesign.com/3029477/norman-foster-on-design...
- ianamartin 8y agoWhy build only one when you can build two for twice the price?
- r00fus 8y ago"Only, this one can be kept secret."... Gotta love Contact references.
- weberc2 8y ago> WSJ is a joke I agree with the rest of your post, but no need to single out the WSJ. Compared to other major publications that regularly have editorialized articles submitted to this forum (e.g., NYT, WashPo, HuffPo, Slate, etc), WSJ is extraordinarily well-behaved. This kind of editorializing is a shame and deserves to be called out, but we should make sure we're calling it out across the board.
- bdamm 8y agoThe real story here is that WSJ posted a news article with an implicit bias against Amazon. This is interesting because Bezos owns WSJ.
- pyronite 8y agoJeff Bezos owns the Washington Post, not the Wall Street Journal. Rupert Murdoch owns the Wall Street Journal.
- bdamm 8y agoGoodness gracious. What a miserable error to start the day with. More coffee I guess.
- jrhurst 8y agoBezos is a smart dude. Small jabs at Amazon doesn't have a significant effect on the business. It adds credibility to the paper.
- wilsonnb 8y agoI wouldn't throw the New York Times and the Washington Post in the same bucket as the Huffington Post and Slate without some good evidence backing it up. It reinforces the idea that all news sources are roughly the same which is not true. WaPo and NYT are national newspapers founded in the 1800's who compete with the Wall Street Journal, Associated Press, the LA Times, Reuters, etc. HuffPo and Slate are news websites launched in the 90's or 2000's that are competing with sites like Breitbart, Salon, the Daily Beast, etc. I agree that we should call out this kind of article, but I don't like spreading the conception that click-bait based news websites are equally as reliable as more trustworthy sources.
- Karishma1234 8y agoAmazon's beauty contest did seem completely counterintuitive to me. People with skin in the game are always in the know of things. Even if Amazon had not massively advertised its move cities and states would have worked hard to bring them to their shores. I did not understand why ordinary public had to be drawn into it. Your average joe is always going to oppose a disruption in his otherwise mundane and lazy life. Apple's strategy is much smarter let the cities secretly do a peacock dance, cut some real under the table secret tax deals and move somewhere else.
- eldavido 8y agoI really don't understand why there's this huge presumption of ill will toward Amazon. HQ2 is a project that will involve hundreds of thousands/millions of people when you add up the employees, contractors who will build it, local politicians/electorate, and everyone else. There's just no way to keep something that big secret. It seems easier to just come clean, announce to the world what you're doing, and be open about it. Plus something of this magnitude is going to require political support so the proposal is as much an appeal to the local electorate as anything else. I, for one, think it would be great if tech jobs spread out across the US.
- advisedwang 8y agoThe complaint isn't that Amazon is expanding into other locations. The complaint is that Amazon is using this to play cities off against each other. It's a race for the bottom designed to maximize gain for Amazon at the cost of the commons.