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Caribbean-Americans Searching for Their Chinese Roots
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- forkLding 8y agoHakka as an ethnicity is a bit interesting, they're less defined as part of a certain ethnic group and more defined due to the conflicts, immigrations and the turmoils they've been through: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakka_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakka_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punti-Hakka_Clan_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punti-Hakka_Clan_Wars
- thaumasiotes 8y agoI assume no living Hakka experienced the Punti-Hakka Clan Wars of 1855-1867. Being defined by the turmoil your ancestors experienced is the same thing as being defined as part of a certain ethnic group.
- forkLding 8y agoHakka in Chinese really is just an archaic name for migrant, which is why I say they're defined by migration and the conflict with locals really caused them to identify with one another and group together because they originated from different provinces. "Identification as Haka was largely...self-selection" which again so how most people select their ethnicity as well I guess
- thaumasiotes 8y ago> Hakka in Chinese really is just an archaic name for migrant, which is why I say they're defined by migration and the conflict with locals really caused them to identify with one another and group together If this were an accurate description, it would be very surprising for all the Hakka in an area to speak their own language, distinct from the local languages. They do, though.
- emodendroket 8y ago> The modern day Hakkas are usually identified with people who either speak the Hakka language or share at least some Hakka ancestry. This sounds like no less plausible an ethnic group than Latinos.
- icebraining 8y agoDo Latinos consider themselves an ethnic group? I mean, is there a Latino identity? I always thought that was just a label applied by US census and such.
- emodendroket 8y agoYes, groups like Latinos and Asian-Americans might be looked at as "artificial" in the sense that they have more cohesion in the US than in their countries of origin, but they nevertheless do have affinities and sometimes form various advocacy groups or vote as a bloc. You don't have to look that hard to find things like Latino student unions and professional groups.
- azinman2 8y agoWhy are there sooo many atlasobsura articles now on HN? I feel like it’s been at least 1/2 on front page for past couple days?
- emodendroket 8y agoI guess people find them interesting.
- brandnewlow 8y agoAs a proud AO investor I’d argue that their stories are a good match for the hacker curiousity spirit of HN.
- yardie 8y agoI hope this article helps inform those that ask the question, "really, what are you?" Through colonialism, commerce, and migration the Caribbean is incredibly diverse. Until now I did not realize these organizations existed.