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> America invades Iraq, slaughters a million people No they didn't. They were incredibly naive and thought that the Iraqis would jump for joy and become just l

> America invades Iraq, slaughters a million people No they didn't. They were incredibly naive and thought that the Iraqis would jump for joy and become just like America when Saddam was taken out. Instead they decided to kill each other. > In the author's mind all of the fundamental, "Orthodox" institutions are controlled by liberals who control the "airwaves and pulpits and universities." Are you suggesting the media, hollywood, and universities aren't left-leaning?

dnomad 8y ago
> No they didn't. Yes, it's all the Iraqis fault. And I'm sure you sincerely believe that despite it being utterly insane. > Are you suggesting the media, hollywood, and universities aren't left-leaning? Ironically, you've aptly demonstrated the entire point. If you asked this question to most people outside of America (you know, the other 7.3 billion people on the planet) I think many would probably agree that no, American media, Hollywood and universities are not left-leaning at all, not even in the slightest. But in America perception has been so completely warped that it's become a "common-sense truth" that the media is left-leaning. This whole banal game, as Chomsky describes it quite clearly[1], is to use propaganda to create a wholly isolated and controllable alternative reality. BTW I also have to point out, though I don't give a shit about HN points, the genuinely humorous irony of downvoting these comments. I mean come on. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent
- Density 8y ago
  The universities are so far left there's a university ethics professor who smashed an alt right protester's skull in with a bike lock. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05/29/a-man-clobbered-trump-supporters-with-a-bike-lock-the-internet-went-looking-for-him/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05...
  - guelo 8y ago
    Nice anecdote. I have one, the conservative billionaire Koch brothers use donations to force conservative curriculum and the hiring of conservative professors at several universities.
    - FeepingCreature 8y ago
      Oh no, a whole several.
      - guelo 8y ago
        That's more than the anecdote I was responding to.
- sheepmullet 8y ago
  > despite it being utterly insane. Why is it insane? > If you asked this question to most people outside of America If you asked them if American media, Hollywood and universities were American-left then I think the vast majority would agree. And that's what actually matters. Not what they consider to be left-wing by their own cultural standards.
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dnomad 8y ago

> No they didn't. Yes, it's all the Iraqis fault. And I'm sure you sincerely believe that despite it being utterly insane. > Are you suggesting the media, hollywood, and universities aren't left-leaning? Ironically, you've aptly demonstrated the entire point. If you asked this question to most people outside of America (you know, the other 7.3 billion people on the planet) I think many would probably agree that no, American media, Hollywood and universities are not left-leaning at all, not even in the slightest. But in America perception has been so completely warped that it's become a "common-sense truth" that the media is left-leaning. This whole banal game, as Chomsky describes it quite clearly[1], is to use propaganda to create a wholly isolated and controllable alternative reality. BTW I also have to point out, though I don't give a shit about HN points, the genuinely humorous irony of downvoting these comments. I mean come on. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

Density 8y ago
The universities are so far left there's a university ethics professor who smashed an alt right protester's skull in with a bike lock. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05/29/a-man-clobbered-trump-supporters-with-a-bike-lock-the-internet-went-looking-for-him/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05...
- guelo 8y ago
  Nice anecdote. I have one, the conservative billionaire Koch brothers use donations to force conservative curriculum and the hiring of conservative professors at several universities.
  - FeepingCreature 8y ago
    Oh no, a whole several.
    - guelo 8y ago
      That's more than the anecdote I was responding to.
sheepmullet 8y ago
> despite it being utterly insane. Why is it insane? > If you asked this question to most people outside of America If you asked them if American media, Hollywood and universities were American-left then I think the vast majority would agree. And that's what actually matters. Not what they consider to be left-wing by their own cultural standards.
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