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Next thing you know, they show you a paper photo and ask you to identify cars, bridges and whatnot in it ...

Spare_account 8y ago
The possibility exists that the online version of the form would be presented with that challenge, but the paper version was printed when the simple checkbox option was presented (I'm asssuming they bulk print blank forms ahead of time). So then the principle that "every action on the web form is matched by the customer's ink marks on paper" would be invalid. They'd have to print that exact iteration of the Captcha and have the customer do exactly that.
- derivagral 8y ago
  Bit of an absurd nit, but... Doesn't the "click correct images as they appear" captcha style make this impossible?
- crypto-jeronimo 8y ago
  Yes, but that's literally impossible. Unless, they: (i) can predict the future; (ii) invent a time machine, which may a superset of (i), subject to the associated limitations of the "device"; (iii) break Google's algorithm in a way that they could know in advance which customer would be served which (Re)CAPTCHA at exactly which point in time. The latest point would be extremely challenging even if they were printing a (Re)CAPTCHA in real time, during the process of filling the physical form. > the principle that "every action on the web form is matched by the customer's ink marks on paper" I think some of this would also be impossible, because the web form does not exist in isolation and is part of a particular browser environment: - browser version - installed plug-ins - associated plug-in settings - auto-fill suggestions Then, one goes down the rabbit hole of other un-matchable features such as, peculiarities of the underlying OS. For instance, in the context of Windows 10, a user may get an additional dose of distraction due to receiving utterly unscientific claims regarding battery-life increase under re-branded versions (but, nevertheless, only useful for downloading other browsers, such as Firefox or Chrome) of Internet Explorer. All of this begins to sound a bit like a free version of Amazon's Mechanical Turk platform. Further versions of such paper forms may actually be used for outsourcing Turing Test questions to wetware, so that we could read further waves of ridiculous articles copy-and-pasting misunderstandings regarding the great achievements of the next "AI" which has "passed" the test.

The possibility exists that the online version of the form would be presented with that challenge, but the paper version was printed when the simple checkbox option was presented (I'm asssuming they bulk print blank forms ahead of time). So then the principle that "every action on the web form is matched by the customer's ink marks on paper" would be invalid. They'd have to print that exact iteration of the Captcha and have the customer do exactly that.

derivagral 8y ago
Bit of an absurd nit, but... Doesn't the "click correct images as they appear" captcha style make this impossible?
crypto-jeronimo 8y ago
Yes, but that's literally impossible. Unless, they: (i) can predict the future; (ii) invent a time machine, which may a superset of (i), subject to the associated limitations of the "device"; (iii) break Google's algorithm in a way that they could know in advance which customer would be served which (Re)CAPTCHA at exactly which point in time. The latest point would be extremely challenging even if they were printing a (Re)CAPTCHA in real time, during the process of filling the physical form. > the principle that "every action on the web form is matched by the customer's ink marks on paper" I think some of this would also be impossible, because the web form does not exist in isolation and is part of a particular browser environment: - browser version - installed plug-ins - associated plug-in settings - auto-fill suggestions Then, one goes down the rabbit hole of other un-matchable features such as, peculiarities of the underlying OS. For instance, in the context of Windows 10, a user may get an additional dose of distraction due to receiving utterly unscientific claims regarding battery-life increase under re-branded versions (but, nevertheless, only useful for downloading other browsers, such as Firefox or Chrome) of Internet Explorer. All of this begins to sound a bit like a free version of Amazon's Mechanical Turk platform. Further versions of such paper forms may actually be used for outsourcing Turing Test questions to wetware, so that we could read further waves of ridiculous articles copy-and-pasting misunderstandings regarding the great achievements of the next "AI" which has "passed" the test.