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Yeah it seems like this guy doesn't even know how the EU works. If you reduce it to "they regulate cucumbers but don't care about real threats" you probably fel

by Dumbdo 8y ago

Yeah it seems like this guy doesn't even know how the EU works. If you reduce it to "they regulate cucumbers but don't care about real threats" you probably fell for some cheap propaganda but it doesn't speak for your understanding of EU regulations.

sparkling 8y ago
Its not FUD, its not a myth, its not cheap propaganda, its real: Commission Regulation (EEC) No 1677/88 of 15 June 1988 laying down quality standards for cucumbers [1] Yes i know this regulation is no longer in place, thats not the point. The point is that the EU is a overblown bureaucracy that should not be in charge of regulating every silly little aspect of life across the various member states. And yes, they are STILL passing laws like this. Recently they passend regulation that limits the power consumption over regular vacuum cleaners. Do you honestly believe that the average citizen wants highly paid bureaucrats in Brussels debating on how much power a vacuum cleaner should draw? [1] http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:31988R1677 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:319...
- wierd0 8y ago
  > Do you honestly believe that the average citizen wants highly paid bureaucrats in Brussels debating on how much power a vacuum cleaner should draw? I certainly do. Wait, there is no equivalent discussion of power draw of vacuum cleaners in the US? Well, then the EU might be at the forefront of consumer electronics regulations and in the end, that's very good for me.
  - evgen 8y ago
    Yes, there is similar regulation in the US that mandates every appliance have a standardized sticker indicating energy efficiency and where each particular model falls within defined classes.
- doikor 8y ago
  The power consumption regulation (actually giving it a grade) for vacuum cleaners is just continuation of what EU has been doing with a lot of other household appliances like dishwashers/fridges/etc. Basically once you mandate a easy to understand energy consumption rating system to some type of product people do start to care about it. Especially if you mandate that this score has to be visible on the packaging and all advertising material.
- collyw 8y ago
  I am quite happy with a number of the "bureaucratic rules" they produce, such as allowing the ban on roaming changes between EU countries and net neutrality for example.

by Dumbdo 8y ago

sparkling 8y ago

Its not FUD, its not a myth, its not cheap propaganda, its real: Commission Regulation (EEC) No 1677/88 of 15 June 1988 laying down quality standards for cucumbers [1] Yes i know this regulation is no longer in place, thats not the point. The point is that the EU is a overblown bureaucracy that should not be in charge of regulating every silly little aspect of life across the various member states. And yes, they are STILL passing laws like this. Recently they passend regulation that limits the power consumption over regular vacuum cleaners. Do you honestly believe that the average citizen wants highly paid bureaucrats in Brussels debating on how much power a vacuum cleaner should draw? [1] http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:31988R1677 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:319...

wierd0 8y ago
> Do you honestly believe that the average citizen wants highly paid bureaucrats in Brussels debating on how much power a vacuum cleaner should draw? I certainly do. Wait, there is no equivalent discussion of power draw of vacuum cleaners in the US? Well, then the EU might be at the forefront of consumer electronics regulations and in the end, that's very good for me.
- evgen 8y ago
  Yes, there is similar regulation in the US that mandates every appliance have a standardized sticker indicating energy efficiency and where each particular model falls within defined classes.
doikor 8y ago
The power consumption regulation (actually giving it a grade) for vacuum cleaners is just continuation of what EU has been doing with a lot of other household appliances like dishwashers/fridges/etc. Basically once you mandate a easy to understand energy consumption rating system to some type of product people do start to care about it. Especially if you mandate that this score has to be visible on the packaging and all advertising material.
collyw 8y ago
I am quite happy with a number of the "bureaucratic rules" they produce, such as allowing the ban on roaming changes between EU countries and net neutrality for example.