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I'm not a policymaker, but GDPR seems overly-reactionary, over-reaching, and not well thought-out. I think the negative unintended consequences are likely much

I'm not a policymaker, but GDPR seems overly-reactionary, over-reaching, and not well thought-out. I think the negative unintended consequences are likely much greater than however much it actually protects the privacy of individuals (which I don't think will be much at all).

hvidgaard 8y ago
GDPR is mostly a regulation that was a directive (DPD) before. If you handled data responsible before and didn't do shady stuff with it, there is little extra to do to be GDPR compliant.
- taysic 8y ago
  Except if you had targeted advertising you now need to allow users to use the same service without targeting. (ie 'without detriment')
Drakim 8y ago
I don't think GDPR is flawless, but at some point if we don't do anything, privacy violations are going to become so common place and so entrenched in the online economy that we can't fix it anymore. At that point, the discussion would be all about all the "jobs we would destroy" and "businesses opportunities we would shut down!", and heavy lobbying would make sure it gets nowhere.
- kennell 8y ago
  Do you think that the GDPR has really changed anything for either Facebook or its users? Do you think that anything changed in the way data is being handled? All i see is a bunch of highly paid law firms writing up 200 additional pages in terms and conditions to shield the company, but nothing really changed as far as daily business is concerned.
  - foepys 8y ago
    Considering that GDPR is only in full effect after May 25th 2018, there is nothing to talk about in regards to its effect right now.
    - taysic 8y ago
      It seems most of their GDPR user facing changes have been made: https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/17/facebook-gdpr-changes/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/17/facebook-gdpr-changes/
  - robin_reala 8y ago
    Two hundred extra pages of new privacy info in the T&Cs would fail GDPR: The information you provide to people must be concise, transparent, intelligible, easily accessible, and it must use clear and plain language. https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/individual-rights/right-to-be-informed/ https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-da...
    - vmateixeira 8y ago
      If a company has money to hire lawyers to make an extra 200 pages of T&Cs, I'm sure they will have the money to argue that those pages are "concise, transparent, intelligible, easily accessible, and it must use clear and plain language".
  - icebraining 8y ago
    Not yet, it'll take a few lawsuits. See the work of Max Schrems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems https://www.fbclaim.com https://www.fbclaim.com
    - zerostar07 8y ago
      Apparently they are already GDPR compliant (FB). In their case it's actually easy to justify their legitimate interest because their entire business is the handling of private data. Ironically, even though GDPR is supposed to affect things like facebook more, it changes very little about the way they work.

hvidgaard 8y ago

GDPR is mostly a regulation that was a directive (DPD) before. If you handled data responsible before and didn't do shady stuff with it, there is little extra to do to be GDPR compliant.

taysic 8y ago
Except if you had targeted advertising you now need to allow users to use the same service without targeting. (ie 'without detriment')

Drakim 8y ago

I don't think GDPR is flawless, but at some point if we don't do anything, privacy violations are going to become so common place and so entrenched in the online economy that we can't fix it anymore. At that point, the discussion would be all about all the "jobs we would destroy" and "businesses opportunities we would shut down!", and heavy lobbying would make sure it gets nowhere.

kennell 8y ago
Do you think that the GDPR has really changed anything for either Facebook or its users? Do you think that anything changed in the way data is being handled? All i see is a bunch of highly paid law firms writing up 200 additional pages in terms and conditions to shield the company, but nothing really changed as far as daily business is concerned.
- foepys 8y ago
  Considering that GDPR is only in full effect after May 25th 2018, there is nothing to talk about in regards to its effect right now.
  - taysic 8y ago
    It seems most of their GDPR user facing changes have been made: https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/17/facebook-gdpr-changes/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/17/facebook-gdpr-changes/
- robin_reala 8y ago
  Two hundred extra pages of new privacy info in the T&Cs would fail GDPR: The information you provide to people must be concise, transparent, intelligible, easily accessible, and it must use clear and plain language. https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/individual-rights/right-to-be-informed/ https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-da...
  - vmateixeira 8y ago
    If a company has money to hire lawyers to make an extra 200 pages of T&Cs, I'm sure they will have the money to argue that those pages are "concise, transparent, intelligible, easily accessible, and it must use clear and plain language".
- icebraining 8y ago
  Not yet, it'll take a few lawsuits. See the work of Max Schrems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems https://www.fbclaim.com https://www.fbclaim.com
  - zerostar07 8y ago
    Apparently they are already GDPR compliant (FB). In their case it's actually easy to justify their legitimate interest because their entire business is the handling of private data. Ironically, even though GDPR is supposed to affect things like facebook more, it changes very little about the way they work.