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I doubt many US politicians or citizens are concerned enough about Facebook to take any meaningful action. A bill like the EU's GDPR would not even get a vote i

I doubt many US politicians or citizens are concerned enough about Facebook to take any meaningful action. A bill like the EU's GDPR would not even get a vote in the US congress.

bogomipz 8y ago
>"I doubt many US politicians or citizens are concerned enough about Facebook to take any meaningful action." You might want to re-read my comment where I say there is no political will on account of lobbying and money. US Citizens are just as concerned as EU citizens about FB. Especially given FB's role in the last US Presidential elections. What is your justification for asserting that US citizens are not as concerned as EU citizens?
- zerostar07 8y ago
  > What is your justification for asserting that US citizens are not as concerned as EU citizens? If a significant amount of them cared it would be reflected in the user numbers.
  - bogomipz 8y ago
    And if you had actually looked at those user numbers you would have seen that Europe has far more FB users than the US. Europe has 370 million FB users compared to 239 million in the US: https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/31/facebook-q4-2017-earnings/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/31/facebook-q4-2017-earnings/
    - zerostar07 8y ago
      i meant that there was no change in those numbers recently
      - bogomipz 8y ago
        Can you provide a citation that demonstrates a significant deletion of FB user accounts form EU citizen compared to the US?
        zerostar07 8y ago
        thats what i m saying - there isnt any. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/number-active-facebook-users-increased-scandals-180426073628185.html https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/number-active-faceboo...
- taysic 8y ago
  Not OP but I'm also very skeptical something like GDPR would pass in the US. While people may be concerned about social media, polls show the majority of people are not in support of adding more regulation on the industry: https://springboardccia.com/2018/04/17/icymi-wsj-nbc-poll-finds-americans-oppose-regulation-tech-services/ https://springboardccia.com/2018/04/17/icymi-wsj-nbc-poll-fi... WSJ/NBC Poll respondents say social media platforms are… regulated too much: 14% have the right amount of regulation: 37% not regulated enough: 37% It's for a good reason too - consumers have noticed they have more choices and freedom than in industries that are highly regulated by the gov. Laws like GDPR would make large swaths of business models useless - such as free games or apps the rely on targeted advertising. Since under GDPR, you cannot ask someone to either allow ads to be personalized or pay for the app (it has to be without detriment), tons of tools people otherwise enjoy would suddenly become paid only or disappear. Not to mention the effect it would have on the startup economy - it would be a big deal. Can't see it happen here.
  - bogomipz 8y ago
    And if you actually read the WSJ article it states: >"Some 37% of people in the new survey said social media platforms such as Facebook and Twitter are not regulated enough, while the same share said the sites have the right amount of government regulation, and 14% said there was too much regulation." So its actually pretty evenly split between the "not regulated enough" and "have the right amount of regulation." I think its fair to say that the 14% that said "there was too much regulation" of social media when in fact there is virtually none are simply doctrinaire anti-regulation Republicans who don't support regulation of any kind anywhere. So the fact that they were specifically being asked specifically about social media is basically irrelevant.
Nomentatus 8y ago
Gerrymandering creates the impression US citizens don't care as much - in fact, they've been cut out of the loop. You're definitely right about the majority of U.S. politicians, their gerrymandered districts are safe; they need only worry about donors' interests.

I doubt many US politicians or citizens are concerned enough about Facebook to take any meaningful action. A bill like the EU's GDPR would not even get a vote in the US congress.

bogomipz 8y ago

>"I doubt many US politicians or citizens are concerned enough about Facebook to take any meaningful action." You might want to re-read my comment where I say there is no political will on account of lobbying and money. US Citizens are just as concerned as EU citizens about FB. Especially given FB's role in the last US Presidential elections. What is your justification for asserting that US citizens are not as concerned as EU citizens?

zerostar07 8y ago
> What is your justification for asserting that US citizens are not as concerned as EU citizens? If a significant amount of them cared it would be reflected in the user numbers.
- bogomipz 8y ago
  And if you had actually looked at those user numbers you would have seen that Europe has far more FB users than the US. Europe has 370 million FB users compared to 239 million in the US: https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/31/facebook-q4-2017-earnings/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/31/facebook-q4-2017-earnings/
  - zerostar07 8y ago
    i meant that there was no change in those numbers recently
    - bogomipz 8y ago
      Can you provide a citation that demonstrates a significant deletion of FB user accounts form EU citizen compared to the US?
      - zerostar07 8y ago
        thats what i m saying - there isnt any. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/number-active-facebook-users-increased-scandals-180426073628185.html https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/number-active-faceboo...
taysic 8y ago
Not OP but I'm also very skeptical something like GDPR would pass in the US. While people may be concerned about social media, polls show the majority of people are not in support of adding more regulation on the industry: https://springboardccia.com/2018/04/17/icymi-wsj-nbc-poll-finds-americans-oppose-regulation-tech-services/ https://springboardccia.com/2018/04/17/icymi-wsj-nbc-poll-fi... WSJ/NBC Poll respondents say social media platforms are… regulated too much: 14% have the right amount of regulation: 37% not regulated enough: 37% It's for a good reason too - consumers have noticed they have more choices and freedom than in industries that are highly regulated by the gov. Laws like GDPR would make large swaths of business models useless - such as free games or apps the rely on targeted advertising. Since under GDPR, you cannot ask someone to either allow ads to be personalized or pay for the app (it has to be without detriment), tons of tools people otherwise enjoy would suddenly become paid only or disappear. Not to mention the effect it would have on the startup economy - it would be a big deal. Can't see it happen here.
- bogomipz 8y ago
  And if you actually read the WSJ article it states: >"Some 37% of people in the new survey said social media platforms such as Facebook and Twitter are not regulated enough, while the same share said the sites have the right amount of government regulation, and 14% said there was too much regulation." So its actually pretty evenly split between the "not regulated enough" and "have the right amount of regulation." I think its fair to say that the 14% that said "there was too much regulation" of social media when in fact there is virtually none are simply doctrinaire anti-regulation Republicans who don't support regulation of any kind anywhere. So the fact that they were specifically being asked specifically about social media is basically irrelevant.

Nomentatus 8y ago

Gerrymandering creates the impression US citizens don't care as much - in fact, they've been cut out of the loop. You're definitely right about the majority of U.S. politicians, their gerrymandered districts are safe; they need only worry about donors' interests.