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Lol. The fourth amendment went out the window with the Patriot act and the Freedom act. The fourth amendment does not matter anymore and nobody gives a shit. It

Lol. The fourth amendment went out the window with the Patriot act and the Freedom act. The fourth amendment does not matter anymore and nobody gives a shit. It's not like an 'important' amendment. I mean it's not the second amendment, otherwise there would be huge lobbying groups up in arms (no pun intended).

cblades 8y ago
This is an incredibly un-helpful comment.
- plankers 8y ago
  This is an incredibly ironic comment.
HashThis 8y ago
> The fourth amendment does not matter anymore and nobody gives a shit. It does matter. Citizens do care. Just because they haven't taken action yet doesn't mean that they don't care or won't.
- anigbrowl 8y ago
  (Lack of) actions speak louder than words.
  - LoonyBalloony 8y ago
    Better to do nothing then the wrong something. There is a non violent solution to this, I'm just not smart enough to know what that is.
    - cfadvan 8y ago
      Wait long enough and the violent solution will emerge on its own, like riots or the guillotine. Waiting and doing nothing while hoping for something ideal is a surefire way to live through the worst case scenario.
    - anigbrowl 8y ago
      that can easily tip into a policy of never doing anything, on the basis that there is always the possibility of an unknown better solution. Nonviolent solutions are ideal, but they do depend on the existence of a public conscience sufficiently active and reliable to restrain bad actors.
- decebalus1 8y ago
  The don't and they won't, don't fool yourself, This legislation will never be backtracked, it's just political suicide as there will ALWAYS be a bogeyman to scare people straight. You know, like communists, drugs, terrorists, etc.. the usual [1]. "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Do you know where that quote is from? [1]https://www.amazon.com/Fantasyland-America-Haywire-500-Year-History-ebook/dp/B004J4WNJE https://www.amazon.com/Fantasyland-America-Haywire-500-Year-...
godelski 8y ago
> The fourth amendment went out the window with the Patriot act and the Freedom act. Or in other words > We had that right taken away and there's nothing we can do to change that. Laws can't be changed, so accept your fate. We are literally talking about that we don't want to accept that and change it.
howard941 8y ago
The Rehnquist drug exception to the 4th amendment opened the door for everything else.
- decebalus1 8y ago
  TIL. Thank you, stranger.

cblades 8y ago

This is an incredibly un-helpful comment.

plankers 8y ago
This is an incredibly ironic comment.

HashThis 8y ago

> The fourth amendment does not matter anymore and nobody gives a shit. It does matter. Citizens do care. Just because they haven't taken action yet doesn't mean that they don't care or won't.

anigbrowl 8y ago
(Lack of) actions speak louder than words.
- LoonyBalloony 8y ago
  Better to do nothing then the wrong something. There is a non violent solution to this, I'm just not smart enough to know what that is.
  - cfadvan 8y ago
    Wait long enough and the violent solution will emerge on its own, like riots or the guillotine. Waiting and doing nothing while hoping for something ideal is a surefire way to live through the worst case scenario.
  - anigbrowl 8y ago
    that can easily tip into a policy of never doing anything, on the basis that there is always the possibility of an unknown better solution. Nonviolent solutions are ideal, but they do depend on the existence of a public conscience sufficiently active and reliable to restrain bad actors.
decebalus1 8y ago
The don't and they won't, don't fool yourself, This legislation will never be backtracked, it's just political suicide as there will ALWAYS be a bogeyman to scare people straight. You know, like communists, drugs, terrorists, etc.. the usual [1]. "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Do you know where that quote is from? [1]https://www.amazon.com/Fantasyland-America-Haywire-500-Year-History-ebook/dp/B004J4WNJE https://www.amazon.com/Fantasyland-America-Haywire-500-Year-...

godelski 8y ago

> The fourth amendment went out the window with the Patriot act and the Freedom act. Or in other words > We had that right taken away and there's nothing we can do to change that. Laws can't be changed, so accept your fate. We are literally talking about that we don't want to accept that and change it.

howard941 8y ago

The Rehnquist drug exception to the 4th amendment opened the door for everything else.

decebalus1 8y ago
TIL. Thank you, stranger.