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Because free supercharging easily makes up for the price difference. Some poeple use something like 4 supercharges a week, which at $20 a charge means $160/mont

by lgbr 8y ago

Because free supercharging easily makes up for the price difference. Some poeple use something like 4 supercharges a week, which at $20 a charge means $160/month.

dragontamer 8y ago
> Because free supercharging easily makes up for the price difference. Some poeple use something like 4 supercharges a week, which at $20 a charge means $160/month. 4-supercharges a week implies ~1000+ miles per week. And its only ~$9 a super-charge last time I checked (https://twitter.com/TheRealPTFI/status/920306238830735361/photo/1 https://twitter.com/TheRealPTFI/status/920306238830735361/ph...) If the car lasts to 300,000 miles at 250-miles per super-charge and $10 per charge, that's $12,000 over the lifetime of the car. And that's a relatively extreme case. No charging at home, no charging at work, no charging anywhere except at super-chargers for all 300,000 miles of your car's lifetime. An absolutely absurd result but still doesn't make the Model3 comparable to ModelS. And hell if I'm going to a charger if I buy a car like this. I'm buying a home-charging station so that I don't ever have to go somewhere else to charge. Charge at night every day forevermore. ----------- Note that the Model S and Model X only receive 400kWh of supercharger credits per year (~1000 miles). So what, that's like $100 / year?? After that, you have to pay supercharger fees. So its not like your extreme use case even saves much money.
- lgbr 8y ago
  > And its only ~$9 a super-charge last time I checked Prices on superchargers were raised: https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/12/17110904/tesla-supercharger-stations-price-raise https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/12/17110904/tesla-supercharg... It's approximately $22 now, and more in places where electricity prices are higher. This raises your estimate to around $24,000 over the course of 300,000 miles. The 400 kWh of free supercharging is only if you don't have a referral. Buyers with a referral receive unlimited supercharging. This isn't an absurd number, either. There are commuters, salesmen, and others that simply drive a lot who easily manage 50,000 to 100,000 miles in a year. (There are hundreds of 2015 and newer cars on AutoTrader currently with over 300,000 miles). But you don't even have to drive that much for it to be worth it. The Model S has an 8 year powertrain warranty with unlimited mileage (which the Model 3 does not), over the course of which you save about $10,000 for every 100,000 supercharger miles you use.

by lgbr 8y ago

Because free supercharging easily makes up for the price difference. Some poeple use something like 4 supercharges a week, which at $20 a charge means $160/month.

dragontamer 8y ago

> Because free supercharging easily makes up for the price difference. Some poeple use something like 4 supercharges a week, which at $20 a charge means $160/month. 4-supercharges a week implies ~1000+ miles per week. And its only ~$9 a super-charge last time I checked (https://twitter.com/TheRealPTFI/status/920306238830735361/photo/1 https://twitter.com/TheRealPTFI/status/920306238830735361/ph...) If the car lasts to 300,000 miles at 250-miles per super-charge and $10 per charge, that's $12,000 over the lifetime of the car. And that's a relatively extreme case. No charging at home, no charging at work, no charging anywhere except at super-chargers for all 300,000 miles of your car's lifetime. An absolutely absurd result but still doesn't make the Model3 comparable to ModelS. And hell if I'm going to a charger if I buy a car like this. I'm buying a home-charging station so that I don't ever have to go somewhere else to charge. Charge at night every day forevermore. ----------- Note that the Model S and Model X only receive 400kWh of supercharger credits per year (~1000 miles). So what, that's like $100 / year?? After that, you have to pay supercharger fees. So its not like your extreme use case even saves much money.

lgbr 8y ago
> And its only ~$9 a super-charge last time I checked Prices on superchargers were raised: https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/12/17110904/tesla-supercharger-stations-price-raise https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/12/17110904/tesla-supercharg... It's approximately $22 now, and more in places where electricity prices are higher. This raises your estimate to around $24,000 over the course of 300,000 miles. The 400 kWh of free supercharging is only if you don't have a referral. Buyers with a referral receive unlimited supercharging. This isn't an absurd number, either. There are commuters, salesmen, and others that simply drive a lot who easily manage 50,000 to 100,000 miles in a year. (There are hundreds of 2015 and newer cars on AutoTrader currently with over 300,000 miles). But you don't even have to drive that much for it to be worth it. The Model S has an 8 year powertrain warranty with unlimited mileage (which the Model 3 does not), over the course of which you save about $10,000 for every 100,000 supercharger miles you use.