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When all they probably needed was a real drug rehab program. Edit: Just saying because almost all petty thievery is committed to get goods to trade for drugs.
by SubiculumCode 8y ago
When all they probably needed was a real drug rehab program.
Edit: Just saying because almost all petty thievery is committed to get goods to trade for drugs.
Edit 2: Also, I'm not saying that this wasn't a good use of home surveillance, or to whatever parent's comment referred, although (s)he is probably wrong that they won't be back next week. I have acquaintances that having got hooked on meth, began stealing cars. Once caught, I thought she'd be put in prison or a drug rehab program. No. She basically served no time because the judge and everyone else know she was just a junky and there was no funding for rehab, and little room in prison.
- kchronic8 8y agoLet me increase your rent so we can pay for said rehab program. If you say no, then you have no right to say anything.
- SubiculumCode 8y agoHa! I would support any tax that pays for real drug rehabs...much cheaper than prison and better chance to fix the real problem.
- FireBeyond 8y agoUnfortunately, knowing our luck it will barely be more than an AA/NA meeting, perhaps with random UA testing, that some contractor charges the government Passages Malibu rates for...
- SubiculumCode 8y agoThis is unfortunately true. Indeed I think it has to include imprisonment during detox and skill training periods (min 1 year)
- kevinh 8y agoYou're assuming that drug rehab programs are a net cost to society.
- syshum 8y agoWhy take 50% of the money used to lock people away in a metal cage and fund the best drug rehab program every conceived by man. I dont think you have any idea how much money is in the prison system today
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- mrobot 8y agoOr we could curb the landlords and build some decent real public housing for a lot of people that is not the prison system. Have you considered "hacking" the problem of these landowners who charge too much?
- mfringel 8y agoTwo things: 1. That's a non-sequitur. Drug rehab programs that are part of prison diversion schemes are implicitly a matter of public policy. A single individual writing a single check is meaningless in that context. 2. "Saint or GTFO" is a debate tactic used by the foolish who think their opponent is a bigger fool.
- SubiculumCode 8y ago"Saint or GTFO" As an aside, I have not heard that type of argument paraphrased this way, but it is terribly amusing.
- coenhyde 8y agoAre you aware of how much money it costs society to send someone to prison? A LOT more than a rehab program. - You have direct cost of imprisonment ~$60k a year - The costs of prosecution (no idea what this costs though) - Once someone has been to prison they are much more likely to be involved in crime again, and become a repeat customer of the industrial prison complex - We loose a tax payer - The perp will have no retirement fund, thus the government is on the hook again during retirement years. - Increased insurance costs for everyone else due to a higher crime rate I don't have the time or resources to do an accurate cost estimation but we could do some basic napkin math. Lets say 10 years in prison during their lifetime and a loss of $15k tax per year over a 30 year period (due to time spent in prison and loss of earning potential once they're out). (10 * $60k) + (30 * $15k) = $1,050,000 loss to the State. That's a shit load of money. Crime prevention looks a lot cheaper now doesn't it?
- SubiculumCode 8y agoMany people, unfortunately, want blood and 'justice', not helping hands and forgiveness for thieves. Perhaps if we highlight just how much 'torture' addicts feel as they go off drugs in a rehab hardliners might be convinced to support drub rehab as a fully funded public policy.
- gowld 8y agoYou haven't shown that (successful) rehab costs less.