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I've been using Elm a few months for a serious project and really like it. That said, I do get the impression there is some drama at the top (among the overlord

I've been using Elm a few months for a serious project and really like it. That said, I do get the impression there is some drama at the top (among the overlords) and the direction they want (or others want them) to take things. I'm not even close to being an overlord or contributing anything to the language (just a consumer who has been very happy with how everything's been working so far) so the fact someone like me is even aware this is going on is mildly troubling. Other libraries I'm fairly familiar with (Pandas in Python, React etc) seem to tend towards quietly releasing without all the public drama among contributors. Not sure whether it's because it's a smaller community or more of the help/documentation is on places like reddit or discourse (where the overlords argue - vs something like stack overflow), or whether everyone involved just needs thicker skin. Either way, it's only a mild annoyance to me for now and I really like Elm overall. Would encourage anyone interested to check it out.

Tehnix 8y ago
Definitely some tension, mainly concerning that there is primarily one gatekeeper, Evan, and he is very focused on 0.19, and therefore 0.18 (the current) is getting stale, and a lot of issues are not fixed/ignored. Problem is, 0.19 has been underway for a looong time, and is still unclear when it'll be done. They also have this weird thing were they are heavily pushing and promoting the language, and when you complain about these kinds of things, you'll often get back a "this is to be expected of such a 'young' language", which seems contradictory to their narrative of "look at all these companies using them in production". Personally, I quite like a lot of the parts of Elm. A bit too simplistic for my taste type system-wise, but that is also it's great strength when having to onboard/convince new developers or colleagues. That said, I'm waiting on 0.19 before seriously considering Elm any time again.
- lewisinc 8y ago
  That's fair, but I think with Elm-Conf coming up it's worth it to keep an eye on at least.

Tehnix 8y ago

Definitely some tension, mainly concerning that there is primarily one gatekeeper, Evan, and he is very focused on 0.19, and therefore 0.18 (the current) is getting stale, and a lot of issues are not fixed/ignored. Problem is, 0.19 has been underway for a looong time, and is still unclear when it'll be done. They also have this weird thing were they are heavily pushing and promoting the language, and when you complain about these kinds of things, you'll often get back a "this is to be expected of such a 'young' language", which seems contradictory to their narrative of "look at all these companies using them in production". Personally, I quite like a lot of the parts of Elm. A bit too simplistic for my taste type system-wise, but that is also it's great strength when having to onboard/convince new developers or colleagues. That said, I'm waiting on 0.19 before seriously considering Elm any time again.

lewisinc 8y ago
That's fair, but I think with Elm-Conf coming up it's worth it to keep an eye on at least.