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Neither side would be justified making someone prostrate themselves in front of anyone. Heads of states should be treat of equals, no matter if one country has

by Balero 8y ago

Neither side would be justified making someone prostrate themselves in front of anyone. Heads of states should be treat of equals, no matter if one country has been around for a couple of thousands of years, or only a bit over one thousand. Also whether it is a stagnant declining empire being left in the dust by other countries, or one of those countries leaving everyone else in the dust, sound also not matter.

mafm 8y ago
The idea that all states (or their heads) are nominally equal is pretty recent. It came from the treaty of Westphalia, ~1650. I'm no expert, but I think that model wasn't really applied to states outside Western Europe until ~20th century.
coldtea 8y ago
>Heads of states should be treat of equals, no matter if one country has been around for a couple of thousands of years, or only a bit over one thousand. Well, tell that to the British first...
- noir_lord 8y ago
  Our colonial history to paraphrase Orwell was "all countries are created equal, it's just some are more equal than others". During the age of empires British foreign policy was swaggering arrogance backed up by gun boat diplomacy. It's weird been British in 2018, we are now a small damp mostly irrelevant island in the North Atlantic.
  - gerdesj 8y ago
    "It's weird been British in 2018, we are now a small damp mostly irrelevant island in the North Atlantic." It's always been a bit weird being British - get used to it! As to irrelevance, you might like to reflect on the fact that around two billion people across the world watched a recent marriage in this parish. Yes it is a bit damp here but on the bright side the weather rarely tries to kill you, nor does the land and nor does the flora and fauna. The nearest thing to a volcano is Castle Rock in Edinburgh OK - Dartmoor int al was formed from a pluton but that was some time ago as well. Our earthquakes are on the sad end of the log base seismic scale. The last tsunami (controversial but there was a major flood) might have been near Bristol and S Wales 100s of years ago. We have precisely one poisonous snake - the adder and they are very rare and keep well away and probably wont even kill you anyway (but it will smart a lot). We have a few poisonous plants but again you would have to be pretty stupid. Funnily enough I had to warn a Floridian about our stinging nettles - they laughed. They stopped laughing after brushing past a patch on a run. Weird: yep. Irrelevent: no more than anyone else. Damp: I prefer "moist".

by Balero 8y ago

mafm 8y ago

The idea that all states (or their heads) are nominally equal is pretty recent. It came from the treaty of Westphalia, ~1650. I'm no expert, but I think that model wasn't really applied to states outside Western Europe until ~20th century.

coldtea 8y ago

>Heads of states should be treat of equals, no matter if one country has been around for a couple of thousands of years, or only a bit over one thousand. Well, tell that to the British first...

noir_lord 8y ago
Our colonial history to paraphrase Orwell was "all countries are created equal, it's just some are more equal than others". During the age of empires British foreign policy was swaggering arrogance backed up by gun boat diplomacy. It's weird been British in 2018, we are now a small damp mostly irrelevant island in the North Atlantic.
- gerdesj 8y ago
  "It's weird been British in 2018, we are now a small damp mostly irrelevant island in the North Atlantic." It's always been a bit weird being British - get used to it! As to irrelevance, you might like to reflect on the fact that around two billion people across the world watched a recent marriage in this parish. Yes it is a bit damp here but on the bright side the weather rarely tries to kill you, nor does the land and nor does the flora and fauna. The nearest thing to a volcano is Castle Rock in Edinburgh OK - Dartmoor int al was formed from a pluton but that was some time ago as well. Our earthquakes are on the sad end of the log base seismic scale. The last tsunami (controversial but there was a major flood) might have been near Bristol and S Wales 100s of years ago. We have precisely one poisonous snake - the adder and they are very rare and keep well away and probably wont even kill you anyway (but it will smart a lot). We have a few poisonous plants but again you would have to be pretty stupid. Funnily enough I had to warn a Floridian about our stinging nettles - they laughed. They stopped laughing after brushing past a patch on a run. Weird: yep. Irrelevent: no more than anyone else. Damp: I prefer "moist".