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> Like many people who met her for the first time, Beam was taken aback by her deep voice. It was unlike anything he’d heard before. Someone pointed it out the

by rdtsc 8y ago

> Like many people who met her for the first time, Beam was taken aback by her deep voice. It was unlike anything he’d heard before. Someone pointed it out the other day here, and I thought well that's just silly. Then went and listen to some videos and it is kind of freaky. It's like she deliberately changes her voice, but it sounds worse and obviously fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YecjzEScXqU&t=105 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YecjzEScXqU&t=105 Here she forgets to fake it for a while: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGfaJZAdfNE&t=403 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGfaJZAdfNE&t=403 I'd think someone should have mentioned it to her. But given the culture in the company I can see what was going on. She could have showed up with a lampshade on her head and nobody would have said anything either. After a while there is nothing to say to someone who does stuff like this: > Still visibly angry, Holmes told the gathered employees that she was building a religion. If there were any among them who didn’t believe, they should leave. Balwani put it more bluntly: Anyone not prepared to show complete devotion and unmitigated loyalty to the company should “get the fuck out.”

gadders 8y ago
Yeah, that voice thing is pretty weird. I think, sadly, she is just fantasist from top to bottom.
pjc50 8y ago
This is what happens when someone reads that deep voices help you make more money: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/10052978/Deep-voiced-chief-executives-are-more-successful-scientists-say.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/10052978/Deep-voice... And for a while, wasn't it a successful tactic? It has a lot of intuitive validity. "Command voice" is definitely a skill that can be taught, and is used by people from military officers to animal trainers and teachers. Given the extent to which the HN audience is amenable to "self-hacking", how many people here would do this if they were convinced it would earn them an extra 5%?
- VHRanger 8y ago
  Probably one of those studies that doesn't replicate. Single new studies with folksy findings tend to be one-offs that can't be reproduced.
- watwut 8y ago
  Count me as one of people who occasionally do that. When I use deeper voice, people are more likely to do what I want. I am more convincing even with the same argument and phrasing. My natural voice is not that deep, but I see zero reason to accept it as natural disadvantage I am not allowed to modify when I recall to do it.
  - called_it 8y ago
    But you can't just take the positive effects and call it a day. The fact that many people would not do that, and find it tacky, manipulative etc. when they notice, is just as valid as the fact it "works" on some as long as they do not notice.
- zentiggr 8y ago
  I learned "command voice" in the control room of a sub, where certain things HAD to be heard over twenty other voices. It still helps with everyday conversation when my wife is on a different floor of the house, or across the yard, etc etc. Every once in a while it helps sort out an otherwise mishmash of a professional discussion... when used judiciously of course.
  - gaius 8y ago
    where certain things HAD to be heard over twenty other voices. Often people say that higher-pitched, female voices are easier to hear over machinery noises, that’s why car satnavs and voice warnings in cockpits tend to be female. Which would seem to be the opposite of a low-pitched voice being more commanding. What do you reckon?
    - zentiggr 8y ago
      Either one can be effective, it's a matter of sufficient pitch difference and increased volume. Almost on topic, some residents of my former high-rise barracks liked playing their bass tracks blaring out the windows, which got my roommate and I thinking, if they have the bass, we can take the treble... and we got our competition bagpipe CDs out and cranked them up. We made our point. (And the barracks mangers shut us both up... )
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by rdtsc 8y ago

gadders 8y ago

Yeah, that voice thing is pretty weird. I think, sadly, she is just fantasist from top to bottom.

pjc50 8y ago

This is what happens when someone reads that deep voices help you make more money: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/10052978/Deep-voiced-chief-executives-are-more-successful-scientists-say.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/10052978/Deep-voice... And for a while, wasn't it a successful tactic? It has a lot of intuitive validity. "Command voice" is definitely a skill that can be taught, and is used by people from military officers to animal trainers and teachers. Given the extent to which the HN audience is amenable to "self-hacking", how many people here would do this if they were convinced it would earn them an extra 5%?

VHRanger 8y ago
Probably one of those studies that doesn't replicate. Single new studies with folksy findings tend to be one-offs that can't be reproduced.
watwut 8y ago
Count me as one of people who occasionally do that. When I use deeper voice, people are more likely to do what I want. I am more convincing even with the same argument and phrasing. My natural voice is not that deep, but I see zero reason to accept it as natural disadvantage I am not allowed to modify when I recall to do it.
- called_it 8y ago
  But you can't just take the positive effects and call it a day. The fact that many people would not do that, and find it tacky, manipulative etc. when they notice, is just as valid as the fact it "works" on some as long as they do not notice.
zentiggr 8y ago
I learned "command voice" in the control room of a sub, where certain things HAD to be heard over twenty other voices. It still helps with everyday conversation when my wife is on a different floor of the house, or across the yard, etc etc. Every once in a while it helps sort out an otherwise mishmash of a professional discussion... when used judiciously of course.
- gaius 8y ago
  where certain things HAD to be heard over twenty other voices. Often people say that higher-pitched, female voices are easier to hear over machinery noises, that’s why car satnavs and voice warnings in cockpits tend to be female. Which would seem to be the opposite of a low-pitched voice being more commanding. What do you reckon?
  - zentiggr 8y ago
    Either one can be effective, it's a matter of sufficient pitch difference and increased volume. Almost on topic, some residents of my former high-rise barracks liked playing their bass tracks blaring out the windows, which got my roommate and I thinking, if they have the bass, we can take the treble... and we got our competition bagpipe CDs out and cranked them up. We made our point. (And the barracks mangers shut us both up... )

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