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Proof of what? The GDPR is not yet in force. Proof of Hungarian authorities targeting small businesses for minor or even non existing infractions? Here's one: t

by chx 8y ago

Proof of what? The GDPR is not yet in force. Proof of Hungarian authorities targeting small businesses for minor or even non existing infractions? Here's one: the tax authority starts garnishing many taxes a few days after the payment deadline -- it's common the entrepreneur realizes they are in trouble when all the cash is gone from their bank account. But if you so want, I can find you any number of horror stories of how small businesses are treated in Hungary, now that they will have a chance to mess with rich westerns (as perceived at least), I have zero doubt they will take this chance.

jacquesm 8y ago
Well, you may be right. I don't have a crystal ball but so far all the other EU law that had this potential has not been activated in that way. VAT law for instance is a good candidate. I've missed one filing by a few days in 2016 because I was switching bookkeepers and I got fined 115 euros, it's my responsibility vv the tax authorities but the bookkeeper that messed up paid the fine so it didn't cost me anything. I don't really understand your tax authority example though, doesn't that mean the payments are late and that the tax authority is fully with in their right to take what's theirs? Did they take more than was their due?
- chx 8y ago
  Nowhere in the (developed) world would the tax authority start garnishing without a notice first -- mostly because they might be in error. And yes, they did take more than their due, more than once.
  - jacquesm 8y ago
    That's not very nice of them. If I were in the receiving position on an action like that I'd take them to court. Let's hope that kind of behavior won't be the norm. But I wish the Hungarian Data Protection Authority much good luck trying such tactics against other EU companies, it will most likely not play out how they think it will. I recall a case of the Irish tax authority trying to fine EU companies for failure to pay VAT, that blew up pretty badly for them, and in the end it turned out they themselves had fucked up. Since then they've been well behaved. I've tried to find a citation for that particular case but can't find it. I own one of the companies that got fined.

by chx 8y ago

jacquesm 8y ago

Well, you may be right. I don't have a crystal ball but so far all the other EU law that had this potential has not been activated in that way. VAT law for instance is a good candidate. I've missed one filing by a few days in 2016 because I was switching bookkeepers and I got fined 115 euros, it's my responsibility vv the tax authorities but the bookkeeper that messed up paid the fine so it didn't cost me anything. I don't really understand your tax authority example though, doesn't that mean the payments are late and that the tax authority is fully with in their right to take what's theirs? Did they take more than was their due?

chx 8y ago
Nowhere in the (developed) world would the tax authority start garnishing without a notice first -- mostly because they might be in error. And yes, they did take more than their due, more than once.
- jacquesm 8y ago
  That's not very nice of them. If I were in the receiving position on an action like that I'd take them to court. Let's hope that kind of behavior won't be the norm. But I wish the Hungarian Data Protection Authority much good luck trying such tactics against other EU companies, it will most likely not play out how they think it will. I recall a case of the Irish tax authority trying to fine EU companies for failure to pay VAT, that blew up pretty badly for them, and in the end it turned out they themselves had fucked up. Since then they've been well behaved. I've tried to find a citation for that particular case but can't find it. I own one of the companies that got fined.