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I have such mixed feelings about The Intercept. They break extremely important news but mix in too many opinionated blog posts. Read some of their articles abo

I have such mixed feelings about The Intercept. They break extremely important news but mix in too many opinionated blog posts. Read some of their articles about animal cruelty. The topics and information are great but the writing is littered with opinion and assumption instead of objective journalism. I couldn't even take two podcast episodes before I stopped listening. They had skits mocking Trump. That's not journalism. That just makes people who like Trump shut down and call your site fake news. Stick to the facts and leave the BS to the bloggers.

krapp 8y ago
>That just makes people who like Trump shut down and call your site fake news. ... good riddance?
- sfotm 8y ago
  Why good riddance? If a person who disagreed with my ideologies was looking for a news source, should I point them to an echo chamber that reinforces their beliefs, or a place that I believe to do good journalism (not necessarily The Intercept, per se)?
  - krapp 8y ago
    If a person is willing to dismiss the credibility of a news source because they mock Trump, then that person doesn't seem very open to questioning their ideology to begin with. It's like arguing with a conspiracy theorist - you can't get anywhere near a real conversation as long as they're trapped in a feedback loop of defensiveness that makes critical self-examination impossible.
    - mrhappyunhappy 8y ago
      This argument does not hold up. Flip this around and you are the one to dismiss the credibility of a news source because it puts trump on a pedestal. Are you not open to questioning your ideology if someone presents some very compelling arguments despite how much you can’t stand Trump?
      - krapp 8y ago
        >Are you not open to questioning your ideology if someone presents some very compelling arguments despite how much you can’t stand Trump? I am open to it - as long as there are compelling arguments made, it shouldn't matter either way. I'll admit I would have a bias against it, since I don't find much praiseworthy about Trump personally or politically, but I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. But if I did, I would be guilty of the same thing. If you flip my argument around and apply it to me, then you seem to be admitting that it does hold up, in general terms.

krapp 8y ago

>That just makes people who like Trump shut down and call your site fake news. ... good riddance?

sfotm 8y ago
Why good riddance? If a person who disagreed with my ideologies was looking for a news source, should I point them to an echo chamber that reinforces their beliefs, or a place that I believe to do good journalism (not necessarily The Intercept, per se)?
- krapp 8y ago
  If a person is willing to dismiss the credibility of a news source because they mock Trump, then that person doesn't seem very open to questioning their ideology to begin with. It's like arguing with a conspiracy theorist - you can't get anywhere near a real conversation as long as they're trapped in a feedback loop of defensiveness that makes critical self-examination impossible.
  - mrhappyunhappy 8y ago
    This argument does not hold up. Flip this around and you are the one to dismiss the credibility of a news source because it puts trump on a pedestal. Are you not open to questioning your ideology if someone presents some very compelling arguments despite how much you can’t stand Trump?
    - krapp 8y ago
      >Are you not open to questioning your ideology if someone presents some very compelling arguments despite how much you can’t stand Trump? I am open to it - as long as there are compelling arguments made, it shouldn't matter either way. I'll admit I would have a bias against it, since I don't find much praiseworthy about Trump personally or politically, but I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. But if I did, I would be guilty of the same thing. If you flip my argument around and apply it to me, then you seem to be admitting that it does hold up, in general terms.