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I'm not sure why he concerns himself with old distros. Are they the customers for Mongrel2? The description on the website emphasizes modern web technologies.

I'm not sure why he concerns himself with old distros. Are they the customers for Mongrel2? The description on the website emphasizes modern web technologies. Using Rails 3 is best with Ruby 1.9.2, and yet the only popular distros that install that via their package management system are the rolling release ones, Arch Linux and Gentoo (where it is masked). Most people willing to use this brand new software are also willing to compile their own necessary bleeding edge dependencies, and probably have a generally up-to-date distro preference (like Ubuntu). Even the latest Debian stable, a notoriously conservative distribution, which is a year and a half old and due to be upgraded soon, uses Python 2.6. I'm not sure it's reasonable to support much past that.

vidarh 16y ago
Upgrading Ruby to 1.9.2 won't break your OS. Upgrading Python on some distros can even break package management. That's the difference. And if you have a well tested, rock stable environment you generally don't want to mess with it if you don't have to, or may not easily be able to. You want to not support older than Lenny. Well, we have machines that are still on Sarge, though slowly being upgraded. Some of the machines haven't been rebooted since around the time Etch came out and that's the main reason they haven't been upgraded yet.
- mfukar 16y ago
  That's only because package management "on some distros" (I won't name them, we all know which they are and I'm sure we're talking about the same one) is fubar. I'm not talking about the package manager alone, but also the over-the-top package dependencies, incoherent dependency resolver, let alone the sheer stubborness of some developers working on package management..
- joelmichael 16y ago
  I'm sure older machines are out there and are doing fine for their purpose. But are you planning to install Mongrel2 on them?

vidarh 16y ago

Upgrading Ruby to 1.9.2 won't break your OS. Upgrading Python on some distros can even break package management. That's the difference. And if you have a well tested, rock stable environment you generally don't want to mess with it if you don't have to, or may not easily be able to. You want to not support older than Lenny. Well, we have machines that are still on Sarge, though slowly being upgraded. Some of the machines haven't been rebooted since around the time Etch came out and that's the main reason they haven't been upgraded yet.

mfukar 16y ago
That's only because package management "on some distros" (I won't name them, we all know which they are and I'm sure we're talking about the same one) is fubar. I'm not talking about the package manager alone, but also the over-the-top package dependencies, incoherent dependency resolver, let alone the sheer stubborness of some developers working on package management..
joelmichael 16y ago
I'm sure older machines are out there and are doing fine for their purpose. But are you planning to install Mongrel2 on them?