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Well, yes. You get prompted to update your car (you can choose not to). And then after the update is complete, you get a Whats Changed prompt the next time you'

Well, yes. You get prompted to update your car (you can choose not to). And then after the update is complete, you get a Whats Changed prompt the next time you're in your car. Essentially a patch notes for your vehicle

whatok 8y ago
For something as major as changing the way a car breaks, do you think "patch notes" (if read at all) are able to properly convey the magnitude of the change?
- greglindahl 8y ago
  How do you know that the change is driver-visible? The change might only be for braking hard enough that the anti-lock feature kicks in... which most drivers don't do very often.
- audionemesis 8y ago
  Yes? My 75D had an entire second shaved off of its 0 - 60 time. I was aware of the change and was able to deal with it just fine... I'm also not sure what the alternative you're imagining here is. Take it in to a shop just to have them install the update for you? I also don't see how this is any different than changing worn out brakes on an old ICE car. I had the brakes changed in my old '97 Accord, and the difference was noticeable when I pulled it out of the driveway. I think you need to give people a little more credit... Also, the Whats Changed prompt literally takes up the entire 17in touch screen. It's sort of hard to miss.
  - whatok 8y ago
    I'm talking about the general populace not only actually reading a prompt but understanding it. Based on how people interact with computers/phones, I do not have a lot of faith in their abilities on this end. I didn't propose an alternative but there's a huge difference in awareness between a physical in-person "update" vs an OTA update. For something as serious as changing brake handling, I'm sure they would have some sort of prominent display/cannot continue until you agree prompt but there's always going to be people who do not read things in their entirety. For something that can be destructive as a car, I don't find that acceptable.
bdcravens 8y ago
Is there an option to revert?
ensignavenger 8y ago
Good, that makes sense! It would be preferable if they gave you the notes before you installed the update (maybe they do provide a link for it?) Thanks for confirming that, anyway.

whatok 8y ago

For something as major as changing the way a car breaks, do you think "patch notes" (if read at all) are able to properly convey the magnitude of the change?

greglindahl 8y ago
How do you know that the change is driver-visible? The change might only be for braking hard enough that the anti-lock feature kicks in... which most drivers don't do very often.
audionemesis 8y ago
Yes? My 75D had an entire second shaved off of its 0 - 60 time. I was aware of the change and was able to deal with it just fine... I'm also not sure what the alternative you're imagining here is. Take it in to a shop just to have them install the update for you? I also don't see how this is any different than changing worn out brakes on an old ICE car. I had the brakes changed in my old '97 Accord, and the difference was noticeable when I pulled it out of the driveway. I think you need to give people a little more credit... Also, the Whats Changed prompt literally takes up the entire 17in touch screen. It's sort of hard to miss.
- whatok 8y ago
  I'm talking about the general populace not only actually reading a prompt but understanding it. Based on how people interact with computers/phones, I do not have a lot of faith in their abilities on this end. I didn't propose an alternative but there's a huge difference in awareness between a physical in-person "update" vs an OTA update. For something as serious as changing brake handling, I'm sure they would have some sort of prominent display/cannot continue until you agree prompt but there's always going to be people who do not read things in their entirety. For something that can be destructive as a car, I don't find that acceptable.

bdcravens 8y ago

Is there an option to revert?

ensignavenger 8y ago

Good, that makes sense! It would be preferable if they gave you the notes before you installed the update (maybe they do provide a link for it?) Thanks for confirming that, anyway.